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  • anilsal
    11-09 09:33 AM
    This discussion can go on and on. Here is my take.

    * US is one of the countries people are flocking into. Even lots of people from UK, Australia and Canada come here to settle.
    * Given this, whenever there are opportunities to lure people in, there will be takers and people who sell (like preapproved labor). If USCIS puts a stop on preapproved labor, then there will be other avenues to take advantage of.

    You may have others in your field/company who are less-educated than you, younger than you and earning more than you, so can you lose sleep over it? No! It is part of life.

    Just focus your energies on IV and its adoption. :)





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  • garybanz
    12-14 04:33 PM
    I know what I am about to say will trigger a lot of reaction and some resentment, but it has to be said on behalf of those who are not Indian. I think the per country limit is to ensure that people of all nationalities and races have an equal opportunity to obtain a green card and to ensure that no one nationality, group, or even sector (i.e. IT) monopolizes the so few visas that are available. In fact, in the visa lottery, countries become excluded when the number of immigrants from them reach a certain point, so we are lucky they do not do that in the Employment-based system!

    I think that by wanting to remove the per country limit so more Indians can avail of the green card quota is both asking for "special treatment" and a slap in the face for all the non-Indian IV members. The more I read the threads on this site, the more I feel that this organization is geared just to one ethnic group. I am sure that Indians probably make up the majority of members, but the founders of IV (I hope) did not want this organization to become one-sided! Please be considerate of ALL members and try to come up with suggestions that would benefit ALL members!!!:mad:

    It's not a question of majority or minority. It's a question of what is fair and what is not (from each person's point of view). An employee joined in my company, 2 years Jr to me, he is learning most of his work from me, he applied for GC much after me....but guess what he already got it and I am stuck in the limbo! Would you like it if the tables were turned?





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  • jayleno
    07-28 10:41 AM
    I think you are one of the most sane Amway guy I have heard from. Thanks for all the explanation. Now I know I have a problem with BWW and their approach not Amway. Looks like they are good brainbleachers.

    again, i am not with this business now but still think its a good model. it is based on word of mouth advertising, franchising, residual income - everything e-commerce (which is a subject taught at some universities). now add some short sighted people to do the teaching and BINGO.. screwed it up big time.





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  • _TrueFacts
    09-04 02:58 PM
    If this thread (forum) was a court room. It would have been declared by Judge that YSR is indeed the most corrupt politician AP had and pending further investigation all the occupied & grabbed lands, wealth be ordered to pay to the victims. In addition, the Judge would put a life time ban his Son from active politics.

    I hope all posters, readers will condemn corruption and blood politics and see US system (for we being in US) as an example for India. No one can better understand American system than us and how it can be modulated to fit into India.



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  • ita
    04-03 02:28 PM
    Sanjay Gandhi- Air crash ..reason cited low fuel..uninvestigated

    Indira Gandhi.. we(at least some people) thought it was because of bullets and on spot.
    But Madam Saino could not make up her mind whether to take her second mother(that's what she says Indira Gandhi is to her) to close by AIIMS or far away Lohia .when the team was going to AIIMS which was quite natural because of the distance Saino insisted on going to Lohia which had contingency protocol set up.After reaching Lohia suddenly she changed mind to go to AIIMS thus wasting 24 valuable min.So her second mother died of loss of blood.
    One more thing ,it was also said that Indira' security arrangement was changed just 1 hour before that day's call which is unusual .

    Also in the Saino's biography commissioned by the family it was written that Indira Gandhi had affair with two men.

    Rajiv Gandhi- LTTE -reason they didn't like Indian forces in Srilanka.

    LTTE has presence in Italy and other areas of Europe.
    Priyanka/Rahul don't let anything in Rajiv's case go anywhere saying they are forgiving the culprits as though it is just family affair when actually Rajiv was country's ex-PM and it is national affair and not family affair to investigate/forgive.
    Paula Maino Saino's mother meets up with Prabhakaran( a christian,nothing wrong with that) before Congress forms alliance with Karunanidhi in 2004.In 90's to pull down UnitedFront govt Sonia cited that since DMK is close to LTTE that killed Rajiv it should not be involved in UF govt.
    Priyanka meets Nalini in jail which is illegal.She doesn't even sign in the register when she goes to jail for the meeting.When it got leaked brother and sister say that this lone daughter wanted to see how their father's killer looks like for years ,to come to terms with hate/anger.
    When a kid asked him why India is so corrupt Rahul Gandhi says even he didn't get justice in his fathers' case even after so many years (meaning use that as example and suck the corruption?)
    Again Rahul says he doesn't like LTTE but political alliance with parties supporting LTTE is OK(meaning anything OK for power?)
    Efforts are on to save Prabhkaran in Srilanka by the UPA govt.

    All these things put together reminds the story of the guy who had taken all kinds of precaution to avoid death once he steps out of his house but died in his backyard.

    Madhav rao Scindia-Air crash-uninvestigated.

    Rajesh Piolt-Accident

    Jitendra Prasada- Seems natural ?

    few years back there was a controversy and Priyanka's husband severed ties with his father and brother.Made a statement in paper.

    His brother-suicide

    His sister-media said she is friends with Priyanka-accident

    Now father-suicide.

    Looks like a Sanjay, a Indira, a Rajiv, a Madhav Rao, a Rajesh had to fall for a Sonia to rule.

    Disclaimer:All the facts on this post are not my personal views but have been raised by politicians,journalists,officials which I found them on the internet while surfing.



    Why every family member of whom gets married with so-called "Gandhi" daughters have to die in unnatural circumstances.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Priyankas-father-in-law-hanged-himself-Police-sources/articleshow/4356528.cms

    Few to be named:

    Feroze Gandhi
    Mohammad Yunus
    Rajendra Vadhra
    Richard Vadhra
    Robert's sister

    Too much!





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  • TeddyKoochu
    09-24 12:32 PM
    Spill will be around 30k for Eb2 and that will clear till mid 2006. by Sep 2010. In Sep 2011 you should be able to file for 485.

    there is no law that says to move date to accept new applications. If DOS makes date current and people have all data visible now will take USCIS to court for not approving cases. What I have learnt that USCIS is considering publishing rule ( Via Rule making process ) in dec 2009 to halt concurrent filling for I 140 and 485 and give chance to pre register for 485. so in Spiring of 2010 we may be able to pre file 485. which may / may not give benefit of AC 21 . EAD is always admin job so they can give out EAD and AP along with pre filling.

    I believe that pre-registering for 485 and being able to file for EAD and AP is itself a great step forward for us. How concrete is this news / information.



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  • smuggymba
    01-25 02:52 PM
    From the day I came to this country , I have spent around $12,000 on immigration including H1-Bs, filing GC, APs, EADs extra. Not to mention the traveling for visa stamps and whole other shit load of expenses. I guess most of people who paid for filing GC did spent same amount of money.

    Hell ya, Some one got to be benefiting from my $12000.


    I thought we're not supposed to pay for H1 and GC. Correct me if I'm wrong? I guess we can only pay for the visa appointment fee.





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  • geve
    11-09 09:17 AM
    You are right my friend. In fact you explained every thing. Your concerns are valid. However as you said you are overreacting. In other words you are stretching your strengths.

    You said 4 of them are your friends. By giving complaint on company i do not know what is the outcome. Can also effect the approved GC candidates.

    There is fine line between DHARMAM AND NYAYAM. Personnally i do not think they did wrong. Neither the company nor the candidates. They just used the available system.

    We can argue or put our opinion to the law makers. One of my friend who came along with me on the same flight, same day from india throught same company can apply for citizenship next year.

    where as me

    EB3 -- May 2003
    I-140 approved Mar 2006

    We are all on same page. Forget about what happened to others. Think what we can do? I am not trying to teach, just trying to coll you down.



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  • sukhwinderd
    05-25 12:07 PM
    http://www.notcanada.com/

    you are much better of in india if you cant get GC in the US.





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  • aruny5
    05-29 12:13 PM
    Date of sign up: May 29, 2009
    Subscription Name: Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: aruny5)
    Subscription Number: S-4EV10617TH7257927



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  • richana
    07-30 05:32 PM
    Travind I am not close to the family anymore I made the dude so uncomfortable he stopped calling me. Here are some avoidance techniques, but you need to be ballsy to pull them of and never exceed the limits of decency and you must have a sense of timing and humor to do these. I have used these techniques myself for avoidance
    1) Stare at his wife or sister and constantly compliment their looks, cooking, chai etc
    2) Make lots of sticky notes with their quotes in the meetings and stick it on their walls
    3)Break your pencil or pen at the meeting and loudly say cuss words like "shit that is good"
    4) Itch nervously when they approach you in any location they will leave you thinking you have some skin disease.
    5) Cough without closing your mouth directly in front of their face
    6) Wear ghetto clothes when you go to the usual locations they avoid you like the plague (sorry guys who wear kurta with jeans and leather chappals you are the most obvious target)
    7) Borrow cd's, dvd's etc and never return them or their calls they are bound to be nice since even in the worst case they are still trying to sell to you.

    There are more things to do but i'm guessing some other people will post their experiences , just one word of caution do not extend your torture because these people are human beings who have been proselytized by their diamonds etc that they dont realize and don't worry they will not learn from you.





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  • pappu
    07-04 12:12 PM
    Thanks you everyone and taking a lead on this thread. we must try to get a lot of media coverage on this issue.



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  • eb3retro
    07-27 08:55 AM
    hang on, I have heard these words somewhere? Let me think which walmart / indian temple? This thread really bothers you guys eh??

    I am not with Amway or Quixtar but I think the folks with Amway/Quixtar are under represented on this thread and it's not fair :-)

    Just to add another dimention to this thread I will play the devil's advocate :D

    Here I go ...

    You guys are all wasting your free time bitching on this thread where as we are spending all our free time growing our business. We will retire early as we would make $xxxx/month for nothing when we turn 40 and dont need to work anymore where as all you guys bitching about Amway / Quixtar will still be working hard at your jobs till 60.

    What's your response ?

    :D:D:D:D

    When did talking to strangers a crime. If you dont like you can always say no :-) . If you are as ambitious as us come join us and make millions by 40. Otherwise live your fixed income lives .

    I wont be offended as I am not with Amway/Quixtar I am just posting on behalf of them for fun :-)





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  • somegchuh
    09-06 02:22 PM
    We applied for canadian immigration in 2002 but didn't have to provide the IELTS results. Things might have changed since then.

    We applied for Canadian immigration through Buffalo, NY in December 2005. I got a letter later in February 2006 stating that the principal applicant (me) must take IELTS. Yes, I sent all the experience letters and a letter of explanation that I have enough English proficiency having stayed in the US for about 11 years, with two bachelor's degrees from a US university, many years of experience, blah-blah-blah. Apparently, that was not enough. So, you better plan on taking IELTS. :)



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  • GetGC08
    07-30 02:18 PM
    To answer your question I will have to go through all your I-140 documents. What did your academic evaluation and experiential evaluation stipulate.


    Hello Samay,

    First of all thank you so much for answering my questions.

    In my LCA(H1B) Prevailing wage is mentioned $ 55K & in my Labor(PERM) application Prevailing wage is mentioned $ 65K.

    My labor(PERM) has been approved & I-140 is in process at TSC.

    My question is
    This diffrence between LCA mentioned prevailing wage(i.e. $55K) & Labor(PERM) prevailing wage(i.e. $65K) going to create any problem at stage of I-140 or later in I-485??

    I am getting paid as mentioned in LCA i.e. $55K.

    I will greatly appreciate response.

    Thanks.





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  • indio0617
    05-11 10:04 AM
    nozerd:

    I just sent you a PM. Can you check ?



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  • samay
    07-22 11:41 AM
    Hi Forum,

    I have come to USA last year and was getting paid consistently till May31. Now, on July 2nd new employer (not a desi, but a big company) applied for transfer on premium processing. I'm continuing with my old employer, and they are marketing me, and have all such emails. Just wanted to know whether the paystub will be an issue for transfer? And how soon can I join them, and what is the risk if I join them now, before I wait for response from INS?

    Any response in this regard will be highly appreciated.

    Normally the last two pay stubs are required and it become an issue and you may get a RFE.





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  • extra_mint
    09-15 12:26 PM
    Totally Agree with your assumptions, there are few more that can be added like

    Some 3-5% people with PD 2005 - 2006 are already approved (as low hanging fruits) during 2008 Aug-Oct period.

    Also recent span of RFE's by USCIS (for preadjudication) resulted in flushing out of some applications

    In short pending EB2 numbers that you are taking into account will be 10 to 20% less and available visa numbers from spill overs will be 20 to 30% more than what you projects. So forward movement will surely be there.

    However there is a doubt related to spill overs every quarter !!
    Allocations are surely made on quarter to quarter basis but there is no certain precedence in the past for spill overs, well i would say the past has been shady

    I recall once VB where EB2 I was giving numbers from EB1 and this was before the last quarter (happened in FY 2008). We have to wait till Dec, 2009 Bulletin.




    The analysis is very optimistic and does not account for

    Duplicates (multiple I-485 for same person)
    Discarded Labor (many people just discard the perm since they switch jobs or did not want to do GC)
    Upgrades (people had EB2 perm but got GC in EB1 category)
    Cross-chargeability (with spouse of PERM hold birth from non retrogressed country)


    If they all makeup to 10-20% of applicants then the PD will move much faster.





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  • krish2005
    01-16 05:16 PM
    Please read this article.

    The Insightful Immigration Blog – Commentaries on Immigration Policy, Cases and Trends: NEW USCIS MEMO ON EMPLOYER-EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP FOR H-1B PETITIONS: IS IT A WAY TO KEEP CERTAIN WORKERS OUT? (http://cyrusmehta.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-uscis-memo-on-employer-employee.html)

    I feel IV can join hands with AILA on this to help us in this situation.

    Any new renewals or new H1 filings are bound to be denied unless its a direct employer vs employee relationship. Third party placement indications are bound to be targeted for denial!

    We are literaly doomed. Given the slugglishness of the GC process this is bound to cripple us down.

    I am feeling sad for those H1B guys who were deported out of Newark thanks to these crooked laws. The laws may be right in their perspective, but they do not understand the havoc it would have created in the lives of those who felt the impact.

    I wish and pray for the good of all and those GC/H1B aspirants during these troubled times now and up ahead.





    lskreddy
    04-22 06:36 PM
    Check your messages Suresh. Thanks.





    conchshell
    07-29 01:06 PM
    I assume that all the EB2 India who have decided to go for CP route will get their immigrant visas stamped in India. I noticed that New Delhi and Mumbai consulates posts a list of candidates due for immigrant visa interview at their website by the middle of the month. May be this list can give us an idea as to how many EB2 India will get their GC through consular posts:

    This is the link for New Delhi consulate: http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov/visa_interview_dates.html

    This is the link for Mumbai Consulate : http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/interview_appt_schedule.html

    At the links mentioned above, you will find PDF documents telling us how many Employment based (EB2) people are scheduled for an interview during August 2008.

    If we can search and locate similar links for Chennai, and Kolkata consulate, probably by mid August we would be in a position to find out how many EB2 India are going to get their GC's in August 2008 through CP route. This will also tell us how many visas USCIS has got to process/waste.

    Gurus ... am I making any mistake here?



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