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  • 485_se_dukhi
    07-26 08:54 PM
    I think the reason people get defensive is because love for your country is an emotional topic (some might call it patriotism)...just as love for your mother (or parents) or religion or political party etc. These are deeply personal issues. When you question any of these, expect fireworks.

    Many people migrate for better opportunity/ better lifestyle. Is that enough reason to question why they still love their original country? I might move from Lucknow to Bombay (for those of you who don't know these places, please substitute Wichita to New York) for the same reasons. Does it mean I stop being nostalgic about Lucknow? or stop loving it? How does migrating affect my love for the place one was born and brought up in?

    Needless to mention there are people from different countries in this forum. So lets refrain from implying that people who immigrate should not love their original motherland/fatherland etc.

    Actually its getting quite ridiculous now. So may I again request the moderators/ admin to pls close this thread. Thank you.

    I think this thread has definitely deviated from its main theme.

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  • longq
    02-13 03:09 PM
    They do not have to go to 7% if they don't want to. However; they can't go over it; if there is more demand then supply.

    I am not disputing this. Entire discussion here is how to handle if demand is less than supply due to the impose of 7%.





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  • arunmohan
    04-01 03:32 AM
    Widower Zardari will be marrying Kumari Mayawati just after election to unite subcontinent and bring peace to world.

    Amen!!!!!!





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  • ramus
    07-03 11:01 PM
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/04/us/04visas.html



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  • old_hat
    05-01 07:24 PM
    When people in Haiti or Fuji are concerned they were people of Indian origin who were forcibly taken by British folks as cheap labor. These guys went from India. Sri Lankan Tamils are most likely natives of Sri Lanka. Bangladesh and West Bengal share the same language but that does not make people from Bangladesh Indians. People of Punjab in both Pakistan and India speak the same language and it does not make people of Pakistan Indians. So in effect the civilians involved in Sri Lankan conflict are not Indians.

    On the other hand, Indian government must help the trapped civilians (not the LTTE). LTTE is a terrorist organization and should not be helped. They have targeted Indian PM, Indian Tamils, fellow Sri Lankan Tamils and dissenters at different points of time and should not be helped. LTTE has used civilians as human shield and Sri Lankan army have not stepped back from hitting civilians. It is reasonable to pressurize Sri Lankan govt to help the trapped civilians.





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  • conchshell
    05-29 03:14 PM
    I guess all the euphoria we had last year because of EB1 spill over is coming to an end. People who play by rule and wait suffer the most, while people who are always on the look to find "innovative ways" get their GC faster. I remember, one of my friend who did a labor substitution got his GC many years before. But at the same time, he took the risk of joining a consulting firm, while I was more inclined to remain under the so called safety net of a big incorporation. I guess the more risk you take, more rewards you get (and sometimes get completely screwed too!!)

    However, we did a nice efforts last year to predict the visa bulletins. There was this guy vdlrao who did an impressive calculation and declared that EB2 will be current in an year. Well, its more than an year and what we have is worst than we had last year. I can only sympathies with EB3 guys, I don't know what to call it .. may be karma in previous birth.

    But my mute point is that we almost always create a false hope for us. First we predicted that EB2 will be current in one year, later on our whole legal immigrant community was nurturing the dream that Mr. Obama will win and his first executive order will be to ship GC's via overnight fedex. We overlooked that even though immigration is looking bad, but reforms in this area is a trailing priority for the new administration. Infighting within EB2/EB3 and various language speaking people is nothing new for us.

    Candidly speaking, neither we have seen any bright idea coming forward from us, nor people are willing to join hands and fight for their natural rights. So coming back to the original point, what's wrong if someone instead of depending on immigration forums, and "ethically" waiting in line, takes a little risk and gets his/her GC faster. Be it a labor substitution, or a guy going back to India and coming back as a Manager in EB1 category. Please remember that as long as its happening under the rules, its neither back door, nor illegal, or unethical.

    My 2 cents.



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  • jsb
    06-03 03:29 PM
    Where does one contribute to said lawsuit? If someone is willing to lead the effort, I'm willing to contribute a little money.

    On July 17, 2007, when USCIS retracted cancellation of July '07 bulletin, as per link below:

    http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/VisaBulletinUpdate17Jul07.pdf

    They said, ..."Department of State has advised that Bulletin #107 (dated June 12) should be relied upon as the current July Visa Bulletin for purposes of determining employment visa number availability..."

    Thus, a lot of us sent I-485 based on "visa availability" communicated herein. Can't lawyers now force USCIS to adjudicate all pending I-485 filings based on this. USCIS said in July, 2007 that visa is available for us (and on that basis we sent in our I-485's), where did it go away? Isn't it now their problem to somehow find those supposedly available visas advised in July 2, '07 bulletin?





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  • unitednations
    02-18 08:20 PM
    I don�t get the point? If somebody comes here on visitor visa and files for 485 or people here illegally flip over to EB blah blah blah then you fix the loophole, you just don�t kill the 485 measure. If you have a brain tumor then you surgically remove the tumor. You just don�t cut of the head. Your solution to oppose 485 seems similar to that. What about the people who have been waiting for for a couple of years to get the labor and I140 cleared and cannot apply for 485 now, If you get laid off without 485 you don�t get AC21 provisions to get a similar job and the whole process is gone down the drain. Why are you worried about somebody who might do something in future when you don�t even want to bother about the people who would benefit from 485 measure right now and right here?

    As you yourself suggested people from India (eb2 and eb3) should not worry about looking at Visa bulletins for the next 10 years because at current pace it will take at least 10 years. There is no company in USA in technology field which will keep you in the same position for 10 years. And you are opposing 485 on some loophole, so if I am reading between the lines people from India who have not yet applied for 485 might as well pack there bags and go back to India. Thanks a lot for your delightful insight!!!!!


    Don't shoot the messenger.

    A couple of studies came to mind recently that don't involve immigration.

    In Florida there was a plan over 30 years ago to build an artifical reef by planting 2 million tires. Seemed like a good idea but didn't serve its intended purpose and did the exact opposite. Now, 30 years later the person who pushed to do this is saying it was a mistake. There has been so much damage caused by this and now 30 years later they want to fix it. It wasn't studied enough and it was implemented and became a disaster.

    In 1999 at Laguardia airport there was a push to allow smaller airlines some space at the airport; even though the airport couldn't accomodate more airlines/flights. There was strong opposition but they did it anyways. Since then; it takes more then 45 minutes from the time your flight leaves the gate to actually get airborn. The flight time from Laguardia versus into Laguardia has a differential of almost an hour. Now; eight years later they are going to try to fix this. Even though it has been a problem for this long. Wasn't studied or thought of carefully enough.

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    Some people are of the opinion that people who have EAD and 485 pending should just shut up because they are enjoying the benefits of it. Well guess what; some of the biggest whiners are the people who have 485 pending but still want to do priority date transfer; are afraid of job loss; are afraid to change jobs, etc.

    Becuase of country cap of 7%; someone filing from ROW in eb3 in 2007 will get ahead of you in line; even though you are from india and a priority date in 2001. Currently, the limitation of ROW people is that they haven't designed a system to get h-1b so they will try to go the b-1 to greencard route.

    People who want to get citizenship badly. Once they get citizenship; what is one of the first things they do? apply for parents greencard or find a spouse and file their greencard (no waiting). For people here on h-1b or greencard and they want babysitters they get their parents on b-1 and try to extend, etc., but eventually parents have to go back. Now; without priority date being current they also come into the stream by filing a labor 140/485 while they are here.

    therefore, you may have a 485 filed but if it is going to take you 10 to 20 years to get the greencard; can you hold onto a same/similar job for that long? Do you think the next step of increasing the quota will come in six months? See my example of Laguardia airport; flight jams since 1999 and now eight years later they are going to decide to attempt to fix the issue. I used to be a frequent traveller and i can't even begin to tell you how inconvenient it is for business travelers to have that type of wait.

    To give you an example; I will post an example of someone on visitor visa trying to get greencard (note; this was a personal e-mail that was sent to me;just in case there are doubters).



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  • jayleno
    07-21 01:49 PM
    This discussion is a lot fun guys.

    I hate these Amway and Quickstar guys with a passion. They are total losers. Though I dont have much to add to what others said before on this thread, I just want some Amway/Quickstar person to see this thread and realize what people of think of them. Doesnt matter I guess. Those guys are shameless and thickskinned.

    Chanduv23, couldn't have said it better. These days, like you said, I too feel very conscious of talking to Desi people who I meet at the public places.

    Some tips I collected after meeting at least 10 Quickstar jokers in the last few years. At some point I was suspecting if I was a Qucikstar magnet. :)

    Common pick up lines for them are:
    1) I have seen you some where
    2) I'm new to the area and I'm looking for a new roommate/place to live.
    3) Nice car/phone. How do you like it? I'm/my-wife-is thinking of buying exact same thing.
    4) If seen at a Desi store, what movie do you suggest?

    After some converstaion like what do you do etc, bang comes the question "How do you like to make some extra money after work?". Thats when you have to pick up your cell phone and answer some imaginary call and ignore the person.





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  • baladev
    06-15 10:10 PM
    probably they all GCs....:D


    What has happend to this forum....:confused: Where are the leaders?



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  • lazycis
    02-14 12:23 PM
    Watch and see how fast the Michigan government will start issuing DL to H1B holders and to those who has pending I-485.

    http://www.aclumich.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=567
    https://www.aclumich.org/pdf/licensecomplaint.pdf





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  • bskrishna
    07-23 11:46 AM
    I have seen nos upto 25k per month. So depends on how many resources are working on this as to the naturalization apps...



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  • TeddyKoochu
    07-22 12:21 PM
    Smile - I can prove this is a relevant topic ..how..

    Some of these jokers (Quikstar..Amway) have filed GC in EB2 and Eb3 which is illegal, someday states Like Arizona will declare that anyone looking like us should be checked for Amway membership and deported

    Profiling is an issue and because of some jokers we all may have to go thru scrutiny.

    We should ask USCIS to check all GC applicants name in Amway database and if found USCIS needs to send them to Mexico (because illegal)..

    We should write to senators... your opinion on this? ( this way Indiancommunity can be clean and fight for legal hardworking people in immigration policy)

    Folks and friends some really nice knowledge sharing is happening here it’s a good discussion. The OP here is a completely fake person and is enjoying at our expense, he has nothing to do with legal immigration just getting pleasure here by instigating us.





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  • BharatPremi
    12-14 12:11 PM
    "The SC concluded that the statutory discrimination within the class of aliens is permissible."

    This could justify difference in say EB1, EB2 and EB3 or F visa, H Visa and L visa. How ever there is no mention that discrimination could be on the basis of sex/race/country of origin etc. IMHO an extension of standard EEO laws should be applied for EB class immigration too.

    NB: I am an HR consultant and an expert on EEO laws, I still think that this discussion is worth taking to a top constitutional attorney. An hour of his time will cost peanuts compared to what we can possibly get out of this.

    With agreeing the central theme represented by Mark, still I am incliened to say "Yay" to your suggestion.



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  • GCisLottery
    10-23 05:05 PM
    Thanks for the reply Amoljak,

    Now if you can please remove all the sarcasm and explain this in more detail in laymen's terms, it would really help me. I mean how is it that atleast 10 members on this site have mentioned people selling and buying LCs LEGALLY! Were they bluffing or are we reading into the law wrongly?

    Thanks
    I don't know the business of this, but it is just fraud and that's precisely why USCIS wants to get rid of it. It is a genuinely OK route for companies that can't hold onto people and has to substitute.

    My assumption is they are "buying" those LCs and join those money making companies, stay there as long as they legally have to stay and get out.

    Now some mod please close this thread.





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  • sands_14
    07-10 08:27 PM
    Well friends,
    I understand the things .
    My take is:
    I will stay another 2 years when i exhaust my full 6yrs H1B.If GC doesnt seem thru by then,I can then move back to INDIA and invest in a new venture.
    I dont find any need to go to Canada,Australia or Gulf.
    Anyways best of Luck to all Migratory BIRDS:) No PUN intended !!:)



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  • ita
    04-03 02:28 PM
    Sanjay Gandhi- Air crash ..reason cited low fuel..uninvestigated

    Indira Gandhi.. we(at least some people) thought it was because of bullets and on spot.
    But Madam Saino could not make up her mind whether to take her second mother(that's what she says Indira Gandhi is to her) to close by AIIMS or far away Lohia .when the team was going to AIIMS which was quite natural because of the distance Saino insisted on going to Lohia which had contingency protocol set up.After reaching Lohia suddenly she changed mind to go to AIIMS thus wasting 24 valuable min.So her second mother died of loss of blood.
    One more thing ,it was also said that Indira' security arrangement was changed just 1 hour before that day's call which is unusual .

    Also in the Saino's biography commissioned by the family it was written that Indira Gandhi had affair with two men.

    Rajiv Gandhi- LTTE -reason they didn't like Indian forces in Srilanka.

    LTTE has presence in Italy and other areas of Europe.
    Priyanka/Rahul don't let anything in Rajiv's case go anywhere saying they are forgiving the culprits as though it is just family affair when actually Rajiv was country's ex-PM and it is national affair and not family affair to investigate/forgive.
    Paula Maino Saino's mother meets up with Prabhakaran( a christian,nothing wrong with that) before Congress forms alliance with Karunanidhi in 2004.In 90's to pull down UnitedFront govt Sonia cited that since DMK is close to LTTE that killed Rajiv it should not be involved in UF govt.
    Priyanka meets Nalini in jail which is illegal.She doesn't even sign in the register when she goes to jail for the meeting.When it got leaked brother and sister say that this lone daughter wanted to see how their father's killer looks like for years ,to come to terms with hate/anger.
    When a kid asked him why India is so corrupt Rahul Gandhi says even he didn't get justice in his fathers' case even after so many years (meaning use that as example and suck the corruption?)
    Again Rahul says he doesn't like LTTE but political alliance with parties supporting LTTE is OK(meaning anything OK for power?)
    Efforts are on to save Prabhkaran in Srilanka by the UPA govt.

    All these things put together reminds the story of the guy who had taken all kinds of precaution to avoid death once he steps out of his house but died in his backyard.

    Madhav rao Scindia-Air crash-uninvestigated.

    Rajesh Piolt-Accident

    Jitendra Prasada- Seems natural ?

    few years back there was a controversy and Priyanka's husband severed ties with his father and brother.Made a statement in paper.

    His brother-suicide

    His sister-media said she is friends with Priyanka-accident

    Now father-suicide.

    Looks like a Sanjay, a Indira, a Rajiv, a Madhav Rao, a Rajesh had to fall for a Sonia to rule.

    Disclaimer:All the facts on this post are not my personal views but have been raised by politicians,journalists,officials which I found them on the internet while surfing.



    Why every family member of whom gets married with so-called "Gandhi" daughters have to die in unnatural circumstances.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Priyankas-father-in-law-hanged-himself-Police-sources/articleshow/4356528.cms

    Few to be named:

    Feroze Gandhi
    Mohammad Yunus
    Rajendra Vadhra
    Richard Vadhra
    Robert's sister

    Too much!





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  • gc_chahiye
    06-26 12:49 PM
    I did not see any precedance for stopping I485 in the middle of months for past 10 years. If it happens that will be first time

    did'nt that just happen to EB3-Other_Workers? The July visa bulletin turned their dates into U, and at the same time USCIS was asked to stop accepting applications (although dates were ok per the June bulletin). That was the note on immigration-law.com (with another note that AILA was looking into the legality of doing this)

    ================================================== =====================================
    06/16/2007: Unskilled Worker EB Category Visa Exhausted Even in June 2007

    * This is a truly bizzare news. AILA has reported that State Department had advised the the USCIS that the EB-3 Other Worker category had been exhausted., and based on this advice, thedUSCIS HQ has informed the Texas Service Center and the Nebraska Service Center to reject EB-3 Other Worker I-485 applications even though the June Visa Bulletin shows visa availability. It is indeed a double blow news to the Unskilled Worker community. AILA is looking into legality of this action.





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  • dvb123
    02-15 10:59 AM
    There have been some class actions in Employment based category. Have to research more on these.

    http://www.immigrationlinks.com/news/news269.htm





    reddy2cool
    09-23 09:42 AM
    Nixstor: I know how responsible person you are. You must have given lot of thought to this. Even if 20-30% people buy house, that reduces the no of applicants waiting for GC which will make it faster for the people that do not want to buy now for various reasons.

    I fully support this idea. Thanks for bringing such good and justified proposal.


    Definetely a good idea, I completely endorse it. Even for people who arent eligible/dont have money right away- dont you think reducing the line will eventually help all of us. we dont need to jump 100 ft at once (read relief for all) as long as we are able to jump 10ft once without injuring ourself. Also for people cribbing about seperating rich, anywhere in the world i.e the concept after all they are taking huge risk by investing their hard earned money (just like 20% people contribute to 80%of taxes) they need a break somewhere.





    MERAMICBOY
    08-01 12:26 AM
    Hi Samay,

    We would really appreciate if you could provide your inputs on our case.

    My wife came to usa on H4, and transferred to H1 in 2006 to work for a desi consultancy.

    Recently she took a full-time position with a fortune 500 company. Her H1 transferred to new company without any problem.

    We would like to appear for her first time H1b stamping at Vancouver during next month. We have some concerns regarding the following issues. Any inputs are highly appreciated.

    She graduated in India and worked for an IT company in India for 2.5 years before coming to USA. Can she appear for visa interview in canada, though she does not have degree from USA.

    Her H1 started on Oct 1st,2006. But she did not find a job until Mid November during the first year. Her employer is not willing to put the start date on work experience letter as Oct 1st, rather on both offer letter and work experience letter the start date has been mentioned as Mid Nov. Will this discrepancy in H1b start date and offer letter start date would be a problem during stamping?

    She has some intermittent large gap in work experience due to the pregnancy. Thus, she has significantly smaller wages (50% less)on w-2 compared to offer letter during second year. But the work experience from previous letter does not state any gaps in work experience. Will the VO would ask for any additional details regarding the wage difference.

    Also, there is a gap of 15 days between the last date on previous employers work experiene and new job start date, and the same can be found from the letters from different employers.

    After she changed to full-time, she has all the required docuemntation for H1B stamping.

    We would like to know the severities of these concerns and suggestions to overcome the same.



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