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  • sanju_dba
    08-11 11:02 AM
    Mr Path of Joy
    I am EB3 India working for a small company in construction design industry. I have enough experience, qualifications and degree for an EB2. But it is not as simple as you make it sound.
    A major part- 8 out of my 15 year experience in this field has been with this employer and although my employer supports me, they are simply not hiring and have been having a difficult time since 2007. So, they cannot file for an EB2 Labor.

    I cannot change jobs, since my qualifications and experience will put me in a different job-description and title which I cannot because of how AC21 interprets the laws.

    So it is not as white and black as you make it sound. Most EB3 folks started their process way early in their careers and have moved on since. Some of us have been waiting for 10 years and have been in the country for 15 or more years.
    Some started during the last recession in 2001-2002 when EB2 was in scrutiny and dates were current for all, most employers and lawyers were touting the EB3 route.

    Anycase, I do not expect you to understand our situation. So continue speeding on your path of joy.

    same boat here, i bet many others do so.
    back in 2003 when my friend insisted to have my GC file in EB2, my attorney filed in eb3 convicing me saying all are current why bother. ( praying a cleaner route to hell for that attorney ).





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  • rajuram
    11-14 09:33 AM
    Totally agree, very nicely put. They will hear - listen if we present ideas that are pertinent to the existing situation. Nothing more pertinent than the housing mess. No one cares about old jaded ideas like "high talent" etc.

    Can people in California approach Zoe Lofergens office with the idea?

    On my part I will start sending letters and emails to the law makers.

    Some one in the core has to take the lead and give some direction to this effort......

    Do not regret if six months from now the housing crisis has cooled a little, no one will listen to us then. We would have wasted another chance. Do not take it for granted that now Obama is in office, he will do smoething about our problems.

    all I can say is that now most economists say that housing is key to rescuing the economy and faster immigration is key to faster recovery. this is the key point in the present scenario ..people will give scant respect if we try to use other issues -namely by saying that legal immigrants are suffering or US is losing high talent ..they will just say the whole US is suffering - why should we care about yr problems.
    but if we push faster immigration of people who are already here legally as a small way to solve the housing crisis then it will definitely stand a chance -
    (please note - no distinction between those who are renting and who have a house already - this makes most sense. this is helpful to those who have purchased a house - since getting gC faster means that they have additional peace of mind)





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  • webm
    03-17 01:48 PM
    Current as per the April'08 bulletin

    Adv congrats!! dude





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  • dealsnet
    03-19 11:12 AM
    The conservative approch for the dependants is 1.2 to 1.5 times the labor approvals. Not all people have a dependants.
    Husband and wife have labor approved. Like my case, my wife have labor approved, but I have file with my labor, which have older PD. Working family with husband and wife in H1B most of them have labor approved. So the actual number will be diffrent.

    From the PERM statistics,
    ROW adjustment should be 55% from the total number of pending cases
    EB3 are 30%

    If the total number of case pending with USCIS is 833,141 (all I-485 including Family based) (based on 12/31 numbers), so EB3 ROW are only 137,468. This means that with the current trend of DOS to avoid wasting GC we should expect the cut-off dates for EB3ROW to be 2006/2007.


    Even if I take your figures at face value, I see a shortage of 60000 visas. This is because we need to consider that each LC will use more than one EB visa (due to family members). If I take a conservative figure that there will be one dependent for each LC candidate, we will need 200,000 EB visas for the 100,000 LCs.



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  • ajthakur
    07-14 05:44 PM
    PD: Jan 2006
    Category: EB2
    Could you inform us what your Eb category is and what is your priority dates.
    TIA





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  • chanduv23
    02-22 10:23 AM
    Guys,
    We need your time, your enthusiasm on the advocacy days. IV is a grass roots organization. You are the grass roots.

    We face problems of backlogs, and career uncertainty. IV is offering a solution, if implemented, it will bring relief to all. IV needs your help to deliver what you and I "NEED" AND "WANT".

    HELP IV HELP YOU.

    We need heavy participation on the lobby days, I need volunteers from different states to ask me "How can I help?" instead, I am trying to find volunteers! I have been able to persuade members who have received GCs to help out, but getting members who are still in the mess are either unaware of the advocacy days (in spite of the thread running on the home page for the past month) or are not ready to talk to the employers to take the two days off. Capitol Hill runs on weekdays and therefore it is necessary for you to take the time off.

    Come on guys, you can do better than this. Donors, members, guests - we are all in this together!

    VA/MD/DC members, please come forward to host members from out of town. Help them to reduce costs!

    Members who have accumulated airmiles, please come forward to donate them.

    Members living in neighboring states to DC (or at least at a driving distance) find friends/members to car pool with you to the event.

    Members who have unavoidable situations at work or home and cannot participate, help fellow members to bear the costs, please donate to their trip. They are willing to take the time off, and will be representing you and your state. Why not help them?

    If you decide that you will support this effort, you will find a way to help. Anything else is just an excuse! Sorry, to say this, but that is just a fact!

    Anu - I seriously think that, if IV is not getting at least 5% members interested in stuff there is no point in beating the dead horses. Looks like most people are interested only in the discussion forums and nothing else.
    Very few people are motivated and I feel bad that people who want to bring change for the good are not getting enough support.
    In my opinion, IV must help people who sincerely and genuinely want to help themselves and not waste time doing social service to a selfish section of the crowd. I suggest that IV become a profit organization and let people keep ranting and discussing their stuff if they are willing to pay for the services and fun. IV does not have to spend time and money and effort and stress out trying to ask selfish people to help themselves.



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  • Refugee_New
    02-21 11:03 AM
    My co-worker tried that and now has 3 RFE's to respond to.
    Don't know the details but mostly it looks like a scam since why did one file Eb3 in first place and how can he add more exp. while Eb3 is pending as a factor for EB2? He is respondign since OCT. but they just keep asking for more details and they have first question for 140/PERM asking - DID YOU EVER HAD ANOTHER LABOR certification besides this one?
    Be very careful-

    This is what happend in my case. I converted my EB3 PD to EB2 PD.

    My EB3 PD was 02/2002. LC Approved in Oct 2005. I-140 approved in 04/2006

    I lost my job and joined another company. Applied PERM with MS degree. Got approved in Jan 2007. Then applied I-140 using PP, requesting to recapture older PD.

    My I-140 was approved within 3 days without any trouble. Now my PD is 02/2002, EB2

    So if you have a right reason then porting PD shouldn't be a problem.





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  • GCKaIntezar
    01-18 09:14 AM
    Its pathetic to see this thread going only to 5 pages, whereas the other thread w/discussion on 485 filing took that to almost 100 pages.



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  • paskal
    12-26 04:18 PM
    london: needed

    paris: needed if your visa is expired, check the web site they still have that requirement, i think they relaxed it to the extent that if US visa is valid, you don't need it. they refuse to consider any other documents/papers.

    what i don't know specifically is: if i'm travelling TO India ie my home country- i have an Indian passport, why should they care? But i think checks are done prior to departure in the US.

    the point is...it's becomeing ahuge pain in the rear ...more so everyday.





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  • harish
    05-29 10:05 PM
    Here is a cross-reference to my other post with the case updates...http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=249686&postcount=85.

    Received our cards today!

    Good luck to the rest of you waiting on your approvals!



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  • coopheal
    03-20 11:31 AM
    I work for a very reputed company. Lawyers filed EB3 because it was easy for them. At that time everything was current and nobody really cared about EB2/EB3.
    Don�t give me moral argument about cutting lines. If someone is qualified for EB2 and position needs EB2 qualified and person is already in process of GC with EB3, he/she has every right to move over to EB2. Don�t even try to equate this with lab subs.
    If desi company�s are misusing it then put proper review/audit for it. That doesn�t mean I cannot join an EB2 job and not switch over. You can say however loud you want � no one would listen and no one should listen to you.
    Hi Coopheal:
    With Due respects to your Seniority and Agony/ Frustration being retrogessed.

    Standard Companies donot opt for having two I140s approved for a particular employees which is a "Logical Fallacy" of EB concept. Leave alone Rat Desi Companies.. They can do anything and turn the boards off..

    If your arguement is right: first you have to stop L1s getting Gcs in less than 10 months.. (on an average). Porting EB3 to Eb2 is a big junk and disrepct to the EB2 Qualifier. Now, Qualifying Eb2, if you feel, is not a big deal, why the companies did not preferred it out for Eb3s in first place because lack of Job Requirements. (infact, this portings have to be highlighted to USCIS as Junk technique and illegal).

    So the whole arguement doesnot workout. Soon, wait and see Portings would bestopped, with Desi companies messing itaround like Approved labors (infact, it isa refined version of approved labor scams).

    Please donot jump on me.. its a waste of time.. But the logic holds good EB2 Vs. EB3. If allowed, People may even qualify for EB1, (People would work it out also sooner or later) Let's respect each other profiles.. and its a matter of time we are all there.

    This is my Honest Advice.. Trust me. I am a 2003 eb3 victim.. No way to jump lines.. its inhuman.

    Thanks,





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  • sanju
    04-22 08:23 PM
    I was the first person in the QnA - disappointed at the intent of this meeting - they really care about illegal immigration - not once legal immigrants were discussed. It was a farce and IV was just used as an organization to show support to him - very disappointed.:mad:


    gautamagg,

    You are the biggest idiot on the face of the earth. You went to the event saying that you represent Immigration Voice. Then you started showing your elitist attitude during your question. If I recollect, your question was:

    You came to US on student visa, changed to H1 and filed for green card. You do not want to live in US but simply want to go back to India after getting a “higher degree”. Since you have declared your immigrant intent, you are not able to change to F1 visa. Stanford and Berkeley Universities are dying to have you as a student in those Univ. What should you do …..

    How the hell do you expect a Congressman to answer a question that is meant for an immigration counselor/attorney? To begin with, why did you even ask such a question in this event? Do you have any idea what Immigration Voice is about? When you are saying you want to go back, why don’t you simply leave? Why the hell is there a need for you to come to a meeting and ask a question that does not represent the problems of the majority and the representative sample of IV members? It would be one thing if your question represented the problem in general. But it is entirely different thing when you come to such event and want to get answers for your question so that you don’t have to pay $100 to an immigration attorney. I truly feel ashamed of being called as “highly skilled” immigrant when elitist like you ask such stupid question. There is definitely something wrong with the selection process of Berkeley and Stanford to select idiots like you. Sometimes, looking at some posts and people like yourself, I personally feel that people whom you called “illegal immigrants” are far better than people like you. And without having any clue of the bigger objective of the meeting and our participation, you are coming here and posting that you are “disappointed at the intent of this meeting”. Boy! you have some nerve. Best of luck with your tunnel vision which is sure to take you places.

    On a different note, Congressman Gutierrez is a true leader. He took the lead in sponsoring COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM bill. Congress is full of people who do not look at the merit of the issue but simple look at the polls to decide their stand on the issue. Congressman Gutierrez showed exceptional courage and quality of a true leader by sponsoring STRIVE bill. If you don’t know, STRIVE bill has very good provisions to end green card backlog. But of’course, why would you care, you are simply dying to go back and simply wanted to show to the crowed that you are better than others. You have no clue about “COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM bill”, would you? I would have not replied to you if you hadn't posted your message. But seeing you behave the way you did at the event, and then coming to the forums to say that you were “disappointed” underscores a simple fact, and that is, when IV has foolish members like yourself, there is no need for anti-immigrant groups to do anything.



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  • GreenLantern
    02-21 05:09 PM
    What is all this about LW. Everybody seems to think it's the bomb. Why? Maybe this needs to be it's own thread?





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  • PHANI_TAVVALA
    05-15 10:30 AM
    actually online MBA costs 2 times more than regular MBA in most cases..they dont have concept of instate/out-of-state tuition for online.yeah its online but still people can be within the state paying state taxes or whatever..

    they should consider this, I say :cool:

    That's bull. Online at top-rated university costs as much as full-time but definitely not more. Most of the top-notch universities don't even differentiate in-state and out-of-state. M.B.A is a money printing machine for them. Assistantships, in full-time schools, are very few and scarce and competition for them is pretty high. I have friends going to Darden School of Business as full-time students and they are paying close to $70k in fee alone. Add to this the cost of living, books etc. Times are pretty bad now and few of them couldnot even get internships for this summer and few who got had had their offers rescinded. For full-time school you have to consider something called "Opportunity Cost". There was a article in Businessweek which mentioned that a Harvard full-time M.B.A will take 15 years to break-even on his M.B.A investment. The reason for this is that he will be spending $80k on fee alone, another $20-30k for living expenses for 2 years, another 10-20k in books and other expenses. At the same time he would have lost on a average $160-200k in 2 year salary and benefits. Combines together it adds upto $300k which can be invested at average 6% interest, if you are a savvy investor, and get good returns. Assuming a Harvard M.B.A graduate on a average make $120k out-of-school if would take 15 years for him to break-even even with all the increments and bonuses.



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  • vandanaverdia
    09-10 01:18 PM
    Your spouse, inspite of being a professional, cannot work, as he/she is a dependent. You end up being the only earning member & supporting your family, while your spouse just has to wait endlessly.....

    What is stopping you from coming to DC??? Need more reasons???





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  • NH123
    05-15 11:15 AM
    That's bull. Online at top-rated university costs as much as full-time but definitely not more. Most of the top-notch universities don't even differentiate in-state and out-of-state. M.B.A is a money printing machine for them. Assistantships, in full-time schools, are very few and scarce and competition for them is pretty high. I have friends going to Darden School of Business as full-time students and they are paying close to $70k in fee alone. Add to this the cost of living, books etc. Times are pretty bad now and few of them couldnot even get internships for this summer and few who got had had their offers rescinded. For full-time school you have to consider something called "Opportunity Cost". There was a article in Businessweek which mentioned that a Harvard full-time M.B.A will take 15 years to break-even on his M.B.A investment. The reason for this is that he will be spending $80k on fee alone, another $20-30k for living expenses for 2 years, another 10-20k in books and other expenses. At the same time he would have lost on a average $160-200k in 2 year salary and benefits. Combines together it adds upto $300k which can be invested at average 6% interest, if you are a savvy investor, and get good returns. Assuming a Harvard M.B.A graduate on a average make $120k out-of-school if would take 15 years for him to break-even even with all the increments and bonuses.


    Now why do you think that a Harvard Graduate will stay with $120K salary for 15 years .Don't you think that in 15 years he will make much more compare to the average job?I know couple of my friends from MIT sloan are making $200K just after 3 years of graduation.



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  • meridiani.planum
    03-04 01:24 PM
    I am expectin WSJ to pay a visit. So I changed the first message.

    perhaps you want to make it even simpler?

    - Remove all the LC/I-140 details, just say that we are at the last stage of a long and arduous process, and are stuck waiting because of very small immigration quota's that were set decades ago which are completely out of line with real supply-demand for the size of todays high-tech workforce. In addition USCIS inefficiency has resulted in them not utilizing even this tiny quota fully, in the past few years.
    - instead of EAD and validity just say getting a mortage is a lot easier if your immigration status is permanent. In this final stage of immigration most of us have work authorization that needs to be renewed every year, and mortgage companies dont accept that.

    copy paste the suggested fixes there (or add a link to the administrative fixes campaign post)





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  • GCard_Dream
    12-13 11:46 AM
    I should have known this. The procedure is right on the IV home page. Does anyone know when the next conference call is?

    How to submit your questions:

    Please read the disclaimer below before submitting your questions via email.Please provide us with the following information, preferably in the following format, and keep it consise and crisp:

    Email with Subject Line saying : Seeking Legal Opinion.
    Email Address: legal_advise@immigrationvoice.org
    Your Info: Please mention your first Name, City and State, so that we can use it to announce your question in the call. That way, your question would be distinguished from similar sounding questions.
    Your Country of Citizenship: If your spouse is from a country other than yours, please specify both your countries of citizenship
    Your Questions: Provide some clear background. Avoid questions with long and complicated case-specific situations that are like "Can I do X? If yes then is option A or option B better? If option A then can I file this? IF option B then can I file this? If B fails then can I refile A?". Such flow-chart and if-then-else type questions would be taken up only if time is left and attorney is comfortable in answering questions with limited information of your situation.





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  • BlueSunD
    02-23 09:32 PM
    Sounds good to me, I havn�t had too much spare time to work on my entrie... but let�s really hope people havn�t really forgot abou this battle! :puzzled:





    Macaca
    09-19 08:16 AM
    Lawmakers will decide to bring up the issue and vote on the bill. Attend all Lawmaker meetings.

    In this meeting, the staffer will give you his/her business card. Follow up with the staffer after the meeting, specially when the bill is coming up for vote.





    desi3933
    02-01 08:03 AM
    Thank you very much for the response. I sent you a PM.

    Now do we need to have the pay stubs for all the time to show you are in status or does the W2 amount be sufficient?

    Thank you.

    >> Thank you very much for the response. I sent you a PM.
    I don't respond to Private Messages. If you have questions for me and would like to get my opinion on it, please post in forums here.

    ____________________
    Not a legal advice.
    US Citizen of Indian Origin



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