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  • NKR
    09-05 04:07 PM
    chandu,its not same all the time as i believe in the candidate potential then the experience..i have seen so many case in my past 5 yrs of experience that a Guy who has 8yrs of experience failed to impress the hiring manager and technical lead in an personal interview where as a fresh graduate from well know university cracked the same interview a got the project� IT is the place where we all have to learn new thing every day...experience only matters how the a person approaching to get the things done...it all depends on how each individual is capable of job get done..this is what i belive in...no offence to any one.


    I think it is more than that. A guy with lots of experience unless he is looking for a job that suits his experience will not get a job for which he will be over qualified.

    An experience guy might find it difficult to answer questions like �what is operator precedence?� at first, cause he has moved from there to advanced levels, but a guy straight out of college can perform better in the interview and get the job.

    Also remember for just a techie job, a middle aged (or older) guy will be a liability on the company as that can change the dynamics of medical insurances and other benefits for himself and his family. The company would rather take in a less experienced person and spend less, the company will not tell that for legal reasons but that is an unwritten rule that they will follow.





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  • Jaime
    09-11 05:44 PM
    We have the time now! The time to plan and to attend the rally! Once the rally passes we will be out of time! We have this huge opportunity! Let us all seize it!!! LET US ALL ATTEND THE RALLY!!!!





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  • alisa
    01-23 06:33 AM
    I agree, at some point, things break even, because people will frankly get fed up and leave. That point will be somewhere between 10-20 years. And we will then be congratulating the two or three Indians who wait this out.

    This was just an attempt to model in the absence of reliable information, and to try and get as reliable information as can possible be got. I wish we could get more data and links here than we currently have (just one I think.)

    The modelling on this thread shows wait times of 15-20 years for India, about 5 years for ROW, and somewhere in between for China (I think China will be closer to ROW than India just because their backlogs for 2001 and 2002 were one fourth that of India.)

    The purpose of the exercise was to estimate wait times based on some solid data. Who is getting screwed, and by how much. (Looks like, the answer to 'who' is Indians, and the answer to 'how much' is 'A lot'.)

    People will naturally not wait for 20 years to get a greencard. Either things will be fixed, or people will start leaving.



    I think thigns break even at some point. It is so frustrating that it becomes no longer attractive to pursue GC (If we have not already reached that point).
    You got to be open to change to survive, be it a person or a country. No point in predicting death before GC or any such extreme cases. It will definetely take as long as it needs. Its basic capitalism at best , supply and demand. You can't beat that.

    Nothing wrong in trying to change the course though.



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  • immique
    07-03 01:42 AM
    I've said it before and I'll say it again - I don't see how the per country limit is unfair! It was set up so that immigrants from ALL nations would have EQUAL opportunity to immigrate to the U.S. and to prevent any one (or two) countries from monopolizing the visa numbers. Getting rid of the per country limit would most certainly lead to immigration from a limited number of sources (countries) and thus jeopardize the diversity of the immigration process. Getting rid of it would be like robbing Peter to pay Paul because those countries who are severely retrogressed now would only see limited benefits and those who are not all that retrogressed would fall backwards - is that fair!? It seems these forms are dominated by "certain" groups who have their own agenda and don't really care about ROW! It makes me feel uncomfortable being an IV member from ROW!

    how can you argue that quota system in EB categories is fair when there is no quota system in H1 visas? do you really think it is fair that a person from retrogressed country wait for 7-10 years in the same category or even a higher EB category when a similar person in other countries see their application cleared in a few months. just imagine yourself being in the less favorable/retrogressed category. EB system is based on qualifications and not the country of Origin. I don't have any issue regarding diversity. diversity is good but I don't think penalizing qualified individuals from a few countries just based on the country of Origin bodes well for the future of immigration especially when US is trying to attract high skilled immigrants.





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  • mariner5555
    03-10 07:21 AM
    dude, i was being funny. which part of the smiley didn't you get?



    I have been resisting to get dragged into this, but I have to post! Not only are you incapable of understanding humor, but you are totally incompetent in understanding plain English.

    I never wrote dirty linen is "writing the fact that we have to wait for years and years" or "having the poll" either. singhsa3 is trying his best to make a case that all of us who are "waiting for years and years" have the potential to buy houses, and therefore give us GCs. Dirty linen is when people like me and Pegasus503 offer our contrasting views (and get red-dotted by immature posters who cannot have a civil debate) AND the media thinks these IV folks are not even in agreement on this subject. This to me would be detrimental to singhsa3's efforts and thus I wrote let's not bicker/argue/wash dirty linen about whether we agree with singhsa3's idea or not.

    As far as your advice "if you are not convinced then stay out of the way", take a cold shower, dude. I was the first to delete my post and asked others to do the same so this would benefit singhsa3's campaign. If your miniscule brain cannot fathom my posts, ignore them and help singhsa3 out instead. And yes, while you are growing up, do resist the urge to add those red-dots......that's not getting you your green card any faster.
    Kutra ..who the heck has the time to read yr senseless humor - it doesnt matter if you put a smiley face next to it. this is a serious issue and using senseless humor does not help ..I wont argue too much nor do I want to get into personal fight ..so I will stop. btw ..I dont have time to give you red dots nor do I care for them. what is sad is that if we cannot capitalize in some way the fact that many many of us are not buying houses (made by American workers BTW), cars, home improvement items etc etc ..then there is little chance that any other campaign will ever work



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  • transpass
    07-28 07:12 PM
    beer != toilet seat.
    picture-of-Ganesha != picture-of-your-parents.

    Please dont sensationalize this and try to make it news when it is'nt.
    People like VHP and Bajrang Dal do this to exploit divisions that result in more votes for them (its almost the way Hitler exploited divisions against the Jews). As educated, skilled, tech-savvy, responsible adults atleast we should all refrain from getting caught up in all this.

    Move on guys. Worry about retrogression and priority dates. Even those stupid threads on LUDs are more productive than this one.

    Well said...There is no reason to cling onto silly things...





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  • danu2007
    11-20 10:54 PM
    Today I got the second letter from USCIS regarding this request. The letter says they accepted the request and put in the pending que.

    Also the letter says, "your request is deemed to constitute an agreement to pay any fees that may be chargeable up to $25.00" and continues and finally it says "most requests do not require any fees and if fees in excess of $25.00 are required, we will notify you beforehand"

    Jusy wondering any one got this reply..



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  • Macaca
    01-26 08:29 AM
    Finally, I understood the purpose of this forum. No, the title is not wrong.

    I understand that you are

    1. explaining retrogression, and
    2. predicting time it will take a person to get GC.

    The above are based on
    1. applications with USCIS, and
    2. USCIS policy to approve GC.

    If this is true, it is the first good idea I have seen here. Alisa for president! (Arnold, California Gov, is working on changing rules for naturalized citizens).

    I have the following suggestions. I will help after I read everything. Give me some time.

    1. Indians are over-represented in IV. Consider the case of a country that is doing better and mention countries that are worst.

    2. Write a short paragraph that goes in IV email sales pitch. This has a URL to this complete report.

    3. This complete report has URL to USCIS data.

    4. We work on similar report (with URLs) on lobbying effort and funding level of anti-immigration organizations.

    USCIS numbers and rules are not the only factors against us. The anti-immigrants are a much bigger factor.

    5. IV email sales pitch has a para with URL on
    a. explaining retrogression (this report).
    b. lobbying effort and funding level of opponents (next report).
    c. IV's experience with legislation.
    d. BEGing for contributions.

    6. KISS principle baby: Keep It Simple, Stupid. Too much gymnastics in IV writeups.





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  • syzygy
    09-28 02:40 PM
    What can be more racist and unfair than USA as of today when hundred thousands of people who already gave their youth energy to innovation are being made to live hell like lives? I am sure many of us will find medical repercussions of what we are going through in few more years and then we can frame GC or AP or EAD or H1B extension and stare at it from hospital beds :) Cornyn / Durbin is all BS, they just don't want people to settle here, they just want slaves. Rest all are hurdles and policies to close any possible open door for deserving.

    It's true that Europe can be a tough place, as can Canada or the U.S. to a newcomer. What is true about Europe is that it is a socialist place, salaries are lower, taxes are higher, racism is stronger, houses are smaller, yet you are also surrounded by beautiful places and there is a lot to do and see. It depends what type of person you are. Some Europeans hate Europe themselves and want to come to the U.S. as much or more than you did when you immigrated here. I'd say Europe is a good Plan B if all else fails here in America for you, and then you can always go back to India or China if you didn't like Europe.

    Hopefully we don't need to get sucked in by the Reverse Brain Drain and we can help Congress help us, by changing the law, and retaining the high-skilled legal immigrants like us who are suffering and stuck in backlogs, and which is the only fair thing to do!



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  • prioritydate
    12-20 08:52 PM
    No worries for you, if you were inadmissible they would not let you back into the country.

    I think so. I went in an out of country 4 times. 2 Indian trips and 2 Canadian trips.





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  • vgayalu
    10-05 01:34 PM
    Hi Guys,

    My attorney sent the response last week and it was delivered to the Dallas, TX. I am little concerned that my attorney actually sent the response to a courier address rather than the PO Box for TSC that they ask you to send. So far I have not seen any updates on my case.

    Vgayalu: After how many days did you see an update after you sent the response to the RFE.


    RFE received date : 09/07/10
    RFE Response sent (MAIlED) : 09/29/10
    (IN USPS to PO BOX by Express mail)

    RFE Response Received by USICS : 09/30/10 ( On line update on same day). - Hard LUD

    Again there is one more soft LUD on 10/01/10.

    Approval update : Hard LUD 10/05/10.



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  • ita
    09-10 11:09 AM
    I'm not able to figure out how to post a mssg in chat..is it 'coz I'm restricted or something? At the bottom of the page I see my name as logged in members though..I've over 150 posts and 4 dots..not enough for access to chat or is it that I'm not able to figure out how to post mssgs? Appreciate it if someone can explain it to me.

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  • zuhail
    03-11 08:58 PM
    By the way there is a thread where it is mentioned that the spill over to EB2 and EB3 still works the same.
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=325657

    This would mean that there would be no significant movement in EB2 and EB3 India numbers.

    Time is RIGHT NOW to introduce a bill for recapturing Visa Numbers.
    Thanks de2002 for The NyTimes Editorial. ( I only wish this had also come from WSJ).

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/opinion/03fri2.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=legal%20immigration&st=cse



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  • alisa
    01-20 02:15 AM
    Man....
    You guys (from India) are in a really really terrible situation.

    First column shows the year. Second one estimates applicants for GC from India. Third (Years to Clear) one divides backlog by 10000 to estimate the number of years needed too clear that backlog, assuming 10000 visa numbers released per year. Fourth (Year cleared) adds that number to the Year column to give the year you can get your GC. Finally, assuming that AC21 added a year's worth of supply of visa numbers, a year is taken out from the final estimate.

    Also dependents are not included in the calculations. Send them back.

    Here is how I estimated backlogs. Backlogs for 2001 and 2002 are taken from jungalee43 posting.
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1265#post1265

    For years 2003 and forward,
    a) 65000 applicants for H-1 assumed
    b) 40 percent of these assumed to be Indians (26000)
    c) 75 % of these 26000 assumed to have applied for and made it past the I-140 stage, i.e. 19500 added annually since 2003.
    d) Each year, 10000 visa numbers allotted to Indians. (Assumption: Indians don't have any dependents. If you want to include dependents, 2001 backlog clears in 2023, and 2006 backlog clears in 2055)

    Here are the results.


    Year Backlog YTC YC AC21
    2001 123194 12.3194 2012 2011
    2002 160274 16.0274 2016 2015
    2003 169774 16.9774 2016 2015
    2004 179274 17.9274 2020 2019
    2005 188774 18.8774 2020 2019
    2006 198274 19.8274 2024 2023
    2007 207774 20.7774 2024 2023
    2008 217274 21.7274 2028 2027
    2009 226774 22.6774 2028 2027
    2010 236274 23.6274 2032 2031


    Feel free to improve on this.

    I had posted this statistics last year on IV. I had done good research to arrive at these figures. I hope the figures will open eyes of people who are bestowed with 'blissful ignorance'.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1265#post1265



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  • sanju
    11-11 05:48 PM
    Wise words from a Senior Member!

    But people here are not ready for new ideas. They are dreaming that Obama will install a GC card printer and start printing once he sworn in.

    I presented an idea recently, as a temprory fix in these tough times. All I got was couple funny replys that has nothing to do with my plan. Also I got few red dots as a bonus.

    Many gave up hope I believe.

    Don't worry about the comments and the dots. I agree, things are going to get very tough in coming years.

    And, the work of every president in the modern history has been diagonally opposite to the expectation. Example, conservatives voted for Bush to ban abortion, stop illegal immigration, balance budget etc. On all these issues, he was a major upset to his supporters. Based on what I know (and don't know), I think that the expectations of most people from Obama administration are likely to dash against the rock. Specifically, people on immigration forums like this one, who feels being in the proximity of a miracle will soon realize the dangerously flawed situation. The apathy of this community will consume it. Live and learn....


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  • Jaime
    09-12 03:06 PM
    EVERYONE, we're meeting in DC next Tuesday!!! You can STILL MAKE IT!!! WE NEED YOU THERE!!!!





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  • asharda
    07-05 04:12 PM
    Added my $100 towards our common dreams and goals! I still vote to keep this site free for everyone's benefit. Believe me ppl will come around..took me a while but as they say better late than never!

    IV you have our support! United we stand!

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    actaccord
    02-17 08:36 AM
    one of the reason I would like Core Team to consider sending email about the Advocacy Day.... that email will get more inactive member like Chandu who got greened and has no good reason (nothing wrong abt it...most of us do the same) to continue visiting IV. Please consider sending one email on Feb and March.

    If someone gets out because of this email I am sure he/she is not going to work on any IV activities even if IV never sent any email. Those members join IV just for some free advice and nothing else.

    Pappu & StarRun consider this request and let us know where we stand on this. I had collected some content from this forum for flyers ( decided not to pursue further after discussion and advice from StarRun).

    On side note, I agree with Chandu regarding convincing our spouse on these kind of expense and participation is really tough a job. We have bought up by teaching/preaching any activities other than studying (for grownups working) is not worth it.

    I agree with you. I thought about it and decided to come to DC. I was greened last year and definitely IV was a very big factor in my GC journey. I have not been logging onto IV for a while as I have been very busy with my personal life, and job tensions, kid etc.. and all sorts of other things.

    After GC, your life usually changes only if you want it to change. I am still in the process of understanding how best to change. As of now, nothing changed - not even my job :).

    I am surprised that people still do not want to help themselves. I see everyone looking at the visa bulletin and getting frustrated, but why do people n ot take the extra step?, I really don't understand. I urge members to come forward and help yourselves. - Please.



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