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  • thomachan72
    09-17 03:27 PM
    [QUOTE=arunmurthy;916610]Cousin of my friend got an email that his card production has been ordered.
    He falls in EB3I (PD Aug. 2005). I could not believe it but my friend told me that
    EB3I would see significant movement in coming months.
    Gus Hang on and tighten your seat belts. We will have a wild ride if he is true.[/QUOTE

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  • chi_shark
    09-23 10:36 AM
    hi! fantastic idea... this will exclude me if this legislation is for primary home only. but if includes any home, i am willing to buy one more home...

    in any case, i would suggest that this content be edited and the housing problem and our solution to it be brought closer together and upwards in the content... the IV community's pain can be sent downwards...

    great stuff... i will write to people...

    As completely unrelated these two issues are (from a law maker's perspective) on a normal day, these are possibly those times when each of these issues can help the other.

    IV has been discussing about the possibility of one for two solution (partial). The idea is to request congress to exempt EB applicants & their dependents from numerical limits of the Immigrant visas, if they buy a home. It is my belief that market sentiment is the most important thing in any financial market(s) and the housing prospects look pretty bleak. There are lot of members in the EB community that have NOT bought their own home, even though they could afford one because of the uncertainty with EB GC. IV's idea is to bridge the financial committees and judiciary committees in the House/Senate and see if corresponding Chairman/Ranking members are willing to listen. Things are moving so fast with the 700bn USD bail out plan and we will NOT have time to do things the normal way, through our counsel. We have to present this idea to the corresponding staff members of key members of congress (see list below) and see if this gets traction now or going forward.

    Please do not bring EB-5 discussion/comparison here. The proposed partial solution is different from EB-5 in that EB-5 investors invest money and we are investing in our future with a genuine intention of making USA our permanent home.


    If you already have a home, thats fine. Any such legislation will reduce the wait times in EB categories and we need housing markets to rebound for a safer economy before the ripple effects are felt every where.

    Who to write to

    Staff members(Chief of Staff, Legislative LA, Financial LA, Legislative Director) of Chairman/Ranking members of House/Senate Judiciary committee & Finance/Banking committee, Staff members of your representative and your senators. Please find staff members of the committees in the spreadsheet (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pptN-jEpAiyd3snslhPjBfw).

    You can find your representative & senator staff members on this website (http://www.outsourcecongress.org/outsource/congress/schstaffers.html).

    Please use valid email addresses and NOT fictitious/junk mail. It undermines the whole purpose and our emails will be flagged by mail scanners / spam checkers as some thing similar to famous Nigeria bank account scams.


    Email Subject: Proposal to alleviate current US Housing/economic crisis

    Content/Message

    SUMMARY

    This proposal alleviates the current US economic crisis, by motivating the US high skilled, legal immigrant workers to purchase homes. The size of this immigrant population is approximately 800,000 individuals. This effort if successful would inject up to US$ 20Billion approximately into the economy (approximately US$ 100 Billion in houses sold across the country) , while at the same time directing this money into the root cause of the economic crisis � the illiquidity of the national housing market. The above calculation is done
    assuming a median US home price of $212,400 and buyers making a down-payment of 20% of the cost of the home. Roughly estimating 400,000 buyers.

    BACKGROUND

    Undoubtedly, we are all devastated by the shake up on Wall Street in the past 15 days. Experts agree that the underpinning problem is the housing crisis caused by sub-prime mortgage loans. Many of us, who cannot afford our monthly mortgage payments are losing homes and putting them up for sale and foreclosure, which further adds to the crisis. At the same time, most of the Employment-based (EB) immigrant community would like to purchase homes and make the United States a permanent home for their families. These EB immigrants however, are living in a state of limbo, mostly in rental apartments because of the delays and uncertainties involved with the EB immigration procedure. The wait times in EB categories are exacerbated by the delays in processing by USCIS, even though eligible applicants have filed for Permanent Residency also known as Adjustment of Status. Such processing delays have resulted in the wastage of 218,000 immigrant visa numbers (Page 52 of USCIS Ombudsman Annual report 2007). The current Department of State visa bulletin shows 7+ years of wait times in certain categories. We strongly believe that legislation can be worked out in such a way that the housing markets all over the country can move towards recovery, while at the same time motivating the Green Card applicants to catalyze this recovery.

    It should be noted that this proposal by no means brings more immigrant workers into the US. The workers in the EB, skilled category are already present in the US, doing skilled jobs that no US worker is available to do. They are part of the long queue of backlogged cases that USICIS will eventually process; however, this wait can take years and in that case could not be used as a tool to minimize the course of the current economic crisis.

    SOLUTION

    Congress can pass legislation that exempts EB green card applicants and their dependents from the numerical limits of visa numbers, provided applicant(s) have bought a home making 20% down payment on the sale price of the home, for a time period deemed necessary by the congress.


    How can Employment based Immigrants help alleviate the housing problem?

    (1) Employment based immigrants are highly skilled and are employed in occupations such as Software, IT, Health care, Energy, Finance, Education and Research & Development across the United States.

    (2) Average income of these individuals/households is around 65,000/130,000 USD.

    (3) All these Employment based immigrants have gone through Department of Labor�s recruiting process, which certifies that there is no willing, able and qualified US Citizen to do the job.

    (4) Most of the Employment based immigrants have excellent credit history and good source of income to make the payments needed for their home mortgage.

    (5) By requiring a 20% down payment from this group of buyers, Congress can directly channel this money to where it is need most � at the banks.

    (6) Employment based green card applicants have been living in the United States for 6-8 years. Many of them have US graduate degrees in their fields of expertise. These applicants are well versed with the American culture and will not change the cultural landscape.

    (7) Financial burden on US government and treasury will be reduced drastically if the glut of houses in the market decreases.


    As a member of the community that wants to make the US its permanent home, I want to contribute to a solution that helps USA and US during these tough times. I sincerely believe that the 30 year commitment on mortgages by Employment based immigrants in the housing market, backed by solid, risk free mortgages can turn the down ward spiral in the housing market into a upward spiral.

    END OF CONTENT





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  • ganguteli
    04-01 11:06 PM
    As long as we are not citizens of USA showing interest in Indian politics is ok. I would say even after becoming citizens it is ok since we are connecting to our country of birth/origin. If someone wants to discuss Burma or China, they can also do that.

    We are immigrants and still are nostalgic to our India. Nothing wrong in it.

    Now tell me, at home do you only discuss immigration with your wife and kids just because you do not have a greencard and are obsessed with it? or do you only discuss work in your office just because you are at work and office is for work? Don't you joke around, have a fun time etc at work too? or do you just send a rude email in big red letters to your CEO saying please delete my name from your payroll because someone in my office is discussing something other than work and I am offended.





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  • new_horizon
    03-27 02:08 PM
    I cannot think of any one good leader left in india. not one who can rise above self-interest and narrow mentality. Can you imagine any one of the so called leaders that was mentioned in this list leading the nation, and not be a laughing stock? remember deva gowda at davos...made a mockery of India there. Mayawati/modi, etc. what kind of leadership qualities (international affairs/finance/etc) do they have? the only kind of experience they have is gundaism, and creating conflicts with caste, culture and religion.
    I wish most of the current class of leaders were erased, and a new class of leaders were brought in. Sadly that'll never happen with the kind of democratic setup we have. in the name of representation, we are debarring intellects, and people with broad vision from joining politics.



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  • Honda
    02-12 11:57 AM
    huge move for EB3 ROw. it was expected I think.

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  • rahulpaper
    06-27 10:03 PM
    Isn�t the visa number limited to a upper threshold for each EB category for each country...How does these number move around between various countries....doesn�t that mean people from India and China (2 countries with most retrogression and paranoia) are looking at a very small number (~2K-4K) and not 40K in July?

    Can someone comment on this number issue?


    Yes I agree.. But if they don't move date foward then they can't approve those backlog applications.And they don't want to loose 40,000 visas . Now when they made all date current, they can approve all those pending application which are complete and just waiting for date to become current. Now we don't know real number and don't know how long it will take USCIS to do all approvals. But if they approve 40,000 in 2 weeks, I won't be surprised if they make it 'U' like other workers.

    But then question still remains why they made all current. They could have just moved it by year or so.. And I am sure they know how many application they can expect in July.. I already saw some where that we have around more then 80,000 approved perm.. All they going to apply.. And what about all whose labor just got approved fro Backlog centers?

    Its making everybody confused.. But its not in our hand and we can't do anything. Best thing is to file asap and just hope for best and we are always ready for worst..


    Just think if they make date 'U' in middle of july, how many member going to loose money. Each of us spent so much money this month and if nothing happens that we loose all of it.



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  • pappu
    07-02 10:43 PM
    IV release.:Please send it to other media offices and free press release distribution services
    http://www.prlog.org/10022648-no-celebration-for-thousands-of-highly-skilled-future-americans-this-july-4th.html





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  • rsharma
    09-14 10:51 PM
    If these numbers are to be believed, then EB2-I could advance till Dec 2005 with ease by Dec bulletin, though some stats for Feb & March 05 (regular labor) also needs to be analysed...

    Dude, we need to take into account the thousands of EB3 I -> EB2 I conversions :(



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  • kumarc123
    07-29 11:08 AM
    The argument that EB2-1 PD will retrogress to 2002 or 2004 does not seem to be based on numbers, but a random speculation. Doesn't not undermine vdlrao's projections in a credible way


    Spillover may not be there, or may be there but when the new quota opens up October 1st, new minimum numbers will be available for EB2-I. Worst case scenario, dates will remain static or very minimal backward movement. It looks like the black hole is the time between late 2004 and early 2005, pre-PERM.Other than saying there is massive inventory of backlogged cases, Ron has not given better/ actual numbers of likely pending EB-2 I cases.

    I agree with you, and believe me, all the white lawyers, none of them go the extra mile to calculate numbers. All they are concerned with is their fees.
    I have a white lawyer and being a member in IV, I know more than she does. Her lack of knowledge does not undermine her credibility, but it is not her job to know the numbers, she presents her client's case to INS, from there its guess work.

    I think Vldrao and other members are not too optimistic or blindly optimistic, they calculated numbers and analyzed the results.


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  • bajrangbali
    06-05 01:10 AM
    That's a much better suggestion than playing carrot-and-stick on real-estate bargains Mr. Hiralal.

    Now, what would really be effective is for our own people that are already naturalized and integrated and assimilated and digested in the US system to stand up for our cause.

    Please, do this for us seniors. As citizens and permanent residents, your voice will be effectively heard. Case in point - legislation on re-uniting families. To begin with, family based has nearly 60% more visas than employment based and nearly 80% of the visas available are exempt from per-country limits. And yet, the politicians want to reform family based immigration process because the people at the receiving end are their citizens. There is nothing wrong with it because the wait-time for extended family members are really long too which is a shame. But you see, there are bills that are actively discussed and passed in that category i.e fundamental solutions are being explored.

    Why is Mr. Bobby Jindal and likes of him not taking up our cause actively? People use their "humble-background" in campaign times. Why do they fail in holding out a helping hand to people that are stuck in such "humble-background"? Do you see such apathy in other minority communities?

    Thanks.

    Some interesting points you bring up here.
    Forget those who got citizenship, even those who got GC turn a blind eye to the immigration issues and people still in line.
    I can bet most of the GC and USC guys/gals would want us to just leave and stay away from USA :D
    Tough luck pal..this is a dog eat dog world..and especially so with our guys/gals who are brought up in the rat race culture right from childhood...
    "Live and let live" - yet to meet someone who really follows that...

    I a will be happy if GC and USC guys/gals dont step up and start demanding no more visas and Indians in this country...i bet some are already supporting numbersusa and such groups...i know a lot of ppl who hates seeing a fellow desi at work/park/vacation/shopping..

    Bobby Jindal :D well..wat can i say...the guy changed his name and doesnt want to be identified with his ethnic background...he will be the last person fighting for our cause..

    Life is hard as it is...people here are on a common cause and helping each other..some need a channel to vent their frustation, some need a suggestion, some are paranoid, some are vigilantes, some are good samaritans... give them a GC or USC and wait for a while and see if they still support the cause...

    Help each other and we can all prosper...guess it may remain a dream afterall

    I guess most people are not happy with what they already have...just think about the toughest days in your lives and pat on ur back how you managed to fight through it...we all have our own good and bad times...

    Aspiring for better future is what drives everyone...but it should not be at the expense of taking a look at what we all have now..and appreciate it...

    We can race ahead..GC..USC..car..better car...house..second house...$$$...list never ends..i hope all of us can put their hand on heart admit that we were much happy and peaceful even when we did not have any of the above...

    This post is not a rant or pointing fingers...just a retrospection
    Life is beautiful...best things in life are free...
    ..just a post with a different point of view...best wishes to all!!!



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  • _TrueFacts
    07-08 09:34 PM
    Time to celebrate the divine punishment. I haven't seen Ramayana, but I have seen Ravana in the form of YSR.

    People of AP should enjoy the moment.





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  • morchu
    06-05 12:52 PM
    It is very clear that there is absolutely no meaning for "quota" on 485 applicants.
    They are allowed to continue to stay in US forever, from the date of their application (assuming the case is good, and eventually will be approved, when visa is available).

    So the whole argument about "diversity" or even "controlled immigration" doesn't stand, since the 485 applicants are here permanently "except" for an official "GC card".

    The only thing the "quota" does is creating "uncertainty" in the mind of genuine applicants. This causes less spending, less home buying and eventually causing bad for the US economy. This just creates a second layer of "tax-payers" who have extremely high "purchase power", but doesn't utilize their purchase power, due to "uncertainity"

    I wonder why the politicians doesn't realize this simple fact yet?

    They either shouldn't allow 485's to wait in US (for diversity & controlled immigration claim), or should just remove the quota for 485's, and let them live their lives & utilize their purchase power to help US economy.



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  • Pineapple
    12-14 02:27 PM
    Nope. UK and Pakistan would then join the club of India & China. ROW is an artificial construct. The reason USCIS posts priority dates for India, China, Mexico and Philippines separately is that applicants from these countries are typically, and especially over subscribed. ROW countries are just countries which are not typically over subscribed in the EB category.

    O.K. Forget for a moment about IN,China,MX and Philipines. Let me understand the "Quota" witihin "ROW"

    Example: Britain, Pakistan.

    Let's say next year tons of nationals of Britain Choose to apply under EB.
    Let's say total is more than 7% of Total 1,40,000 limit.

    Is that allowed?

    Same question for Pakistan...





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  • kuhelica2000
    02-16 12:41 PM
    Defending one's country is one thing and defending fraud and corruption is another thing. Yes, there are lots of great universitites in India like IITs, IIMs, and several Regional Engineering Colleges. But guess what, when it comes to EB2/EB3 genuine IITs and overnight (okay maybe three months) bodyshop graduates are treated the same way. It is for the sake of our profession that we need to weed out these frauds.

    Don't make corruption in India as an incentive to thrash Indians. Majority of Indian H1b/L1 like any other community are well skilled professionals. It should not give you an incentive to thrash Indians or India. I am sure you belong to India and I am pretty depressed to see some one trash his own country to get some cheap publicity on this blog. I am not playing a race card but Yes I will defend Indians or Chinese for any attacks by bigots like you.



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  • Googler
    02-12 01:38 PM
    I have the same question. State dept moves the date just so that the visa numbers are used for that category. If a category is retrogressed, then it can't really be "undersubscribed".

    This was listed at the bottom of the page in the March VB in state dept's website:

    The cut-off date movement for March in several Employment categories has been greater than those experienced in recent months. Advancement of the cut-off dates at this time should prevent a situation later in the fiscal year where there are large amounts of numbers available but not enough time to use them. If the expected increase in CIS number use materializes, future cut-off date movements could slow or stop.

    Mods should merge two identical threads. See my post in the other thread:
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=222365&postcount=12





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  • mihird
    05-10 05:06 PM
    There is a lot of debate going on here, about how Canada and Australia have a better immigration system because they are points-based self-petition systems compared to employer-petition system here in US.

    ....
    If I score 100 points out of required 50 or 60 points for Canada, its all meaningless if I am inept and cannot get a job. However, I would contribute to my own well-being and to the workforce and economy if I can find a job and an employer willing to petition, even if I score 25 points out of required 50 or 60.



    You are missing a point here though...having gone through the Canadian point system myself back in the late 90s, the Canadian point system gives you added points for having current employment in your intended occupation.

    When you don't have employment, you lose those points, and have to rely on other aspects of your profile to compensate for that..it is another story that their point system is lax enough to qualify most MS and PhD people even when they don't have current employment.

    Ph.Ds driving cabs in Canada is the same as immigrant doctors working as nurses or lab technicians in the US.

    I will disagree with you. Employer sponsored path to permenant residency is certainly not the best. Firstly, if the average time to process an application is 5-7 years, expecting a person to shackled in the same job for that long is absurd...and for that matter, that job remaining steady and available for that long is equally an absurb assumption..

    There may be unemployed Ph Ds is Canada but they are no different from the thousands of underemployed H1-B immigrants in the US, not being able to make career moves because of the employer sponsored petitiions..

    My .02 cents..



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  • sodh
    03-18 03:39 PM
    Can somebody delete the threads where there is a question of sub. labor, I thought we are an organisation trying to reduce the backlog and not to advice how to increase it .





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  • ita
    04-16 01:08 PM
    When Gadnhiji advocated secularism for India he did so because he believed in "Sarva Mata Sama Bhava"(The equality of all religions in which most of us believe).

    When religious conversions are made fundamental right as per constitution the word 'Secularism' became a farce.A farce used by religious groups (that use either terror/deceit,abuse for conversions) and also by Macaulian Indians

    (Today in India Hindus&others are 70%,Muslims 20%, Christians 10%)

    Once the head count , behind which most of the religious groups are running is reached , once the figures are toppled then the mantra will be dominate and destroy(as what happened in rest of the world be it Latin America or else where, stands as example), not secularism which will be reduced to joke by then.

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  • sidbee
    06-02 03:59 PM
    Its possible we will not win such a lawsuit....I am not a lawyer, and often things which seem discriminatory to the common man, cannot be proved so in the court of law.
    Yet, such a lawsuit could get some publicity and at least highlight the baltantly unfair laws against certain groups people based on country of birth in the EB category.

    It very well depends on the lawyer .

    If he could prove country quota as unconstitutional, which i feel it is.

    But yes IV should talk to a good constitutional lawyer(not immigration), and find the odds,

    And as you said, even if we do not win , we would for sure get some media coverage.





    srikondoji
    12-16 08:38 AM
    I hope this is not our last ditch effort or one of the last chips in our possession to further our goals of Greencard.

    The crisis in united states is not just housing bubble but much more than that. I am not sure if this initiative (linking greencard and purchasing home) will find much traction in government or in medai given the complexity of the mess.
    The currency collapse which we used to discuss is now gathering storm now. The recent runnup in Dollar is peaking now and is in downward trend. Analysts are already up in arms arguing that United states have to take massive debt (assuming China and arab world is ready to give) or they have to print currency to finance their bailouts.

    --sri





    alisa
    02-15 02:13 AM
    How would letting "people" know that there is a problem help? The only people that matter are politicians.

    I dont' mean people in general. I mean people like you and I.
    Average Joe is probably not googling 'retrogression' as he enjoys his baby back ribs.
    People like you and I are.

    It would increase membership. Which would increase funding. Which would enable us to lobby more. Which will have a greater chance of success.

    From Einstein's famous equation:

    membership+funding+lobbying+patience = chance of success
    Anything else = Absolute failure.



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