singhsa3
10-21 08:28 PM
Can you please state the source of ur information.
The contents of this postings are based on what I have read from various Lawyer's website and my lawyer's suggestions.
Multiple I-485 Fillings Scenario:
1. Two I-485 for the with the same primary applicant
Case a: One I-140/I-485 Pending with another employer and one I-140/I-485 to be filed in July with the current employer.
Case b: One I-140/I-485 Pending due to substituted labor (and cannot be expedited because premium processing not available). Another I-485 to be filed based on approved I-140 (on one's own labor). Both from the same employer.
2. Two I-485 with different primary applicants (Primary on one and dependent on other)
Case a: I-140 for one is approved while other's pending
Case b: Both I-140 Approved
Case c: Both filling concurrently in June
Pros and Cons
Scenario 1, Case a: In this case there is a substantial risk that I-485 filed with first employer might lead to issues esp if I-140 is not approved. Thus is a good idea to file another one with current employer. (Pro)
Scenario 1, Case a: How can one Adjust the Status from two employer at the same time. (Con)
Scenario 1, Case b: Since first I-485 application is already filed and I-140's outcome is not known. It is a good idea to file another one as a fall back option. If one waits for the outcome of first I-140 and it is denied and then it will be too late to file another I-485 because dates might have retrogressed.
Scenario 2, Case a: One with the approved I-140 should file I-485 with other as dependent.
Scenario 2, Case b: I-485 for both is almost ensured and thus filling two will give added cover in case something happens. One might have a better priority date than other. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b: Job loss of one would still allow other with AC-21 benefits. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b:Only one of the two partners has to stick to the job description and other is free to pursue anything (including studies).
Scenario 2, Case c: Use I-140 Premium Processing on at least one application for added certainty.
Summary of Pros and Cons
Pros:
1. More flexibility as there are two applications to fall back on.
2. Only opportunity to file EAD/AP before retrogression kicks in.
3. Useful if I-140 is pending and outcome of it is unknown.
4. There are NO USCIS memos that prohibits such filling explicitly.
5. Many lawyers have recommended this as a best option.
6. It has been mentioned that USCIS cancels the second I-485 after approving the other. That makes this a hassle free option.
7. If there are issues with multiple filling one of the application can be withdrawn.
8. If later on it turns out two application is a norm and right thing to do and retrogression hits one has no one to blame but himself.
Cons:
1. Cost of two fillings (if paid by self)
2. There have been indications by lawyers that two fillings could lead to unnecessary delays and interviews.
3. Apart from delays there has been indications that USCIS might issue an
RFE and ask to choose one.
Conclusion
========
There is nothing wrong with two filings, worst case scenario could be an RFE from USCIS to choose one. Best case scenario is USCIS upon approving one cancels other. Two filings indeed give you a peace of mind and reduce risk during the process. It doesn't change the outcome (like your application will not be denied just because you have filed two). If a little delay is acceptable to you as a price you pay to reduce a bigger risk and added benefits then multiple filing is right thing to do.
The contents of this postings are based on what I have read from various Lawyer's website and my lawyer's suggestions.
Multiple I-485 Fillings Scenario:
1. Two I-485 for the with the same primary applicant
Case a: One I-140/I-485 Pending with another employer and one I-140/I-485 to be filed in July with the current employer.
Case b: One I-140/I-485 Pending due to substituted labor (and cannot be expedited because premium processing not available). Another I-485 to be filed based on approved I-140 (on one's own labor). Both from the same employer.
2. Two I-485 with different primary applicants (Primary on one and dependent on other)
Case a: I-140 for one is approved while other's pending
Case b: Both I-140 Approved
Case c: Both filling concurrently in June
Pros and Cons
Scenario 1, Case a: In this case there is a substantial risk that I-485 filed with first employer might lead to issues esp if I-140 is not approved. Thus is a good idea to file another one with current employer. (Pro)
Scenario 1, Case a: How can one Adjust the Status from two employer at the same time. (Con)
Scenario 1, Case b: Since first I-485 application is already filed and I-140's outcome is not known. It is a good idea to file another one as a fall back option. If one waits for the outcome of first I-140 and it is denied and then it will be too late to file another I-485 because dates might have retrogressed.
Scenario 2, Case a: One with the approved I-140 should file I-485 with other as dependent.
Scenario 2, Case b: I-485 for both is almost ensured and thus filling two will give added cover in case something happens. One might have a better priority date than other. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b: Job loss of one would still allow other with AC-21 benefits. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b:Only one of the two partners has to stick to the job description and other is free to pursue anything (including studies).
Scenario 2, Case c: Use I-140 Premium Processing on at least one application for added certainty.
Summary of Pros and Cons
Pros:
1. More flexibility as there are two applications to fall back on.
2. Only opportunity to file EAD/AP before retrogression kicks in.
3. Useful if I-140 is pending and outcome of it is unknown.
4. There are NO USCIS memos that prohibits such filling explicitly.
5. Many lawyers have recommended this as a best option.
6. It has been mentioned that USCIS cancels the second I-485 after approving the other. That makes this a hassle free option.
7. If there are issues with multiple filling one of the application can be withdrawn.
8. If later on it turns out two application is a norm and right thing to do and retrogression hits one has no one to blame but himself.
Cons:
1. Cost of two fillings (if paid by self)
2. There have been indications by lawyers that two fillings could lead to unnecessary delays and interviews.
3. Apart from delays there has been indications that USCIS might issue an
RFE and ask to choose one.
Conclusion
========
There is nothing wrong with two filings, worst case scenario could be an RFE from USCIS to choose one. Best case scenario is USCIS upon approving one cancels other. Two filings indeed give you a peace of mind and reduce risk during the process. It doesn't change the outcome (like your application will not be denied just because you have filed two). If a little delay is acceptable to you as a price you pay to reduce a bigger risk and added benefits then multiple filing is right thing to do.
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snathan
11-27 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ashkam
Lost in all this is the fact that Punjabi wants to sell his house not because he cannot afford it anymore, but because he wants to move to a different city to a higher paying job and can't be bothered to take responsibility for his failed real estate venture. He could have done the ethical thing and stayed in his present job and paid off his loan but he is choosing not to. And who does he blame for his situation? The concept of the "American dream". So the fact that he wants to shirk his responsibilities in favor of foisting his own debt onto the rest of the country isn't his own fault, it's the "American Dream" that's making him do this. It's not exigent financial circumstances that are causing him to foreclose, it is greed and shortsightedness (colloquially known as "The American Dream"). Greed and shortsightedness already caused him to go 20K under the water. And they will now make him screw up his own credit history. If someone cannot learn from one mistake, I say let him keep making mistakes. He will soon find out how difficult life in the US can be if you don't have a good credit history. As for the burden on us taxpayers, hey, we've been spending 10 billion a week for the past 5 years dropping bombs on people, what's a mere 20K?
If you are fooled once, blame it on others.
If you are fooled twice, blame it on yourself.
He didn’t think twice before buying the house. He bought because everyone was buying. Now he wants to foreclose because everyone is doing. Punjabi is not ready to learn from mistake.
Aleast let us learn from him. Punjabi, please go ahead and do what you want(Foreclose). Also please update this forum with whatever you are going through. It might be helpful for others atleast.
Originally Posted by ashkam
Lost in all this is the fact that Punjabi wants to sell his house not because he cannot afford it anymore, but because he wants to move to a different city to a higher paying job and can't be bothered to take responsibility for his failed real estate venture. He could have done the ethical thing and stayed in his present job and paid off his loan but he is choosing not to. And who does he blame for his situation? The concept of the "American dream". So the fact that he wants to shirk his responsibilities in favor of foisting his own debt onto the rest of the country isn't his own fault, it's the "American Dream" that's making him do this. It's not exigent financial circumstances that are causing him to foreclose, it is greed and shortsightedness (colloquially known as "The American Dream"). Greed and shortsightedness already caused him to go 20K under the water. And they will now make him screw up his own credit history. If someone cannot learn from one mistake, I say let him keep making mistakes. He will soon find out how difficult life in the US can be if you don't have a good credit history. As for the burden on us taxpayers, hey, we've been spending 10 billion a week for the past 5 years dropping bombs on people, what's a mere 20K?
If you are fooled once, blame it on others.
If you are fooled twice, blame it on yourself.
He didn’t think twice before buying the house. He bought because everyone was buying. Now he wants to foreclose because everyone is doing. Punjabi is not ready to learn from mistake.
Aleast let us learn from him. Punjabi, please go ahead and do what you want(Foreclose). Also please update this forum with whatever you are going through. It might be helpful for others atleast.
royus77
06-29 04:49 PM
On the flip side, if this is only a rumor, then USCIS/DOS won't comment at all.
Thanks,
Jayant
H1 quota will be over on day 1 also started as a rumor ..however USICS quickly jumped and clarified how they will handle the situation ..i hope the same this time also .
Only intresting thing is will they accept applications on day 1 and cover their skin ?...Then no body can question DOS/USICS as they always had a reason to defend themself....Guys what ever happens if you can file today thats fine else ..do use fedex same day service and make sure the application will reach b4 5 on monday
Thanks,
Jayant
H1 quota will be over on day 1 also started as a rumor ..however USICS quickly jumped and clarified how they will handle the situation ..i hope the same this time also .
Only intresting thing is will they accept applications on day 1 and cover their skin ?...Then no body can question DOS/USICS as they always had a reason to defend themself....Guys what ever happens if you can file today thats fine else ..do use fedex same day service and make sure the application will reach b4 5 on monday
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Kushal
01-09 08:51 PM
Sending out the letters today..
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mbawa2574
09-26 11:11 AM
Mccain is good for us as long as he seperates himself from house republicans. Obama is good if he gets rid of that stupid durbin.
Though Mccain is business friendly. There are talks on CNBC and Wallstreet about rebuidling capital in this country and skilled immigration is part of it. I think Michele..I don't know last name wrote an article in Wall Street Journal Today supporting Legal Immigration , innovation and creating demand for housing in this country. It's the protectionist lobby which is screwing the country.
Though Mccain is business friendly. There are talks on CNBC and Wallstreet about rebuidling capital in this country and skilled immigration is part of it. I think Michele..I don't know last name wrote an article in Wall Street Journal Today supporting Legal Immigration , innovation and creating demand for housing in this country. It's the protectionist lobby which is screwing the country.
cooldude
10-03 02:07 AM
Got my receipt today. Till friday i wasn't in there sytem, they told me to call after 1 month n today my company lawyers got the receipt. So guys hold on.... :-)
vikul
What's the notice date on your receipts ??
vikul
What's the notice date on your receipts ??
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gc_on_demand
04-01 11:37 AM
I believe that we will get 14-15K from EB2 ROW, EB1 = 12K (currently) + 6K (Minimum), regular cap I/C 6K. Eb2 row usage is down to 60%.
Total Numbers = 14 + 18 + 6 = 38K.
Now total demand is not just 34K demand data we also have porting and new filings especially from May - Jul 2007. My assumption of porting has been 6K out of which 2K have been approved.
So really its almost an exact match till Jul - Aug 2007. We should wait for the May bulletin thing to come true firts I believe VDLRAO gave a great calculation for that.
Don't forget EB5
Total Numbers = 14 + 18 + 6 = 38K.
Now total demand is not just 34K demand data we also have porting and new filings especially from May - Jul 2007. My assumption of porting has been 6K out of which 2K have been approved.
So really its almost an exact match till Jul - Aug 2007. We should wait for the May bulletin thing to come true firts I believe VDLRAO gave a great calculation for that.
Don't forget EB5
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shekhar10c
07-11 11:25 AM
The flower campaign has been a spectacular success. Lets not dilute it or confuse it with food or pizza campaign. Lets the free flow of flower campaign contunue.
There is a symbolism of peaceful protest behind flowers, its universaly understood, what is the symbolism behind sending food, it might be misunderstood. Lets not overdo it.
yeah u r right. Our aim was to realize them and not irritate them. And sending flowers is wonderful job .I salute to u people. But sending pizzza???:eek: This may backfire. So, now lets sit and watch. And if you want to send more something, then better send more flowers to USCIS,DOS and even to walter's hospital instead of sending pizza!!!!! Or better contribute for IV:)
There is a symbolism of peaceful protest behind flowers, its universaly understood, what is the symbolism behind sending food, it might be misunderstood. Lets not overdo it.
yeah u r right. Our aim was to realize them and not irritate them. And sending flowers is wonderful job .I salute to u people. But sending pizzza???:eek: This may backfire. So, now lets sit and watch. And if you want to send more something, then better send more flowers to USCIS,DOS and even to walter's hospital instead of sending pizza!!!!! Or better contribute for IV:)
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sravani
05-17 11:03 AM
who gets the EAD/AP attorney or applicant at his home address. Please tell me if anybody knows
Thanks
EAD and AP belongs to the applicant and Applicant gets them directly.
Thanks
EAD and AP belongs to the applicant and Applicant gets them directly.
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saturnring11
01-17 09:16 PM
While I agree in principle to what is being suggested here (I voted for this on Change.gov), I think it may be easier to win this battle with a smaller change:
The five year clock for obtaining US Citizenship (post Permanent Residency) must start at the time Adjustment of Status (I-485) has been filed.
For example: If you are approved for Permanent Residency after a long 5 year wait of filing your I-485, you should be eligible to apply for citizenship immediately without a further wait.
This takes away at least part of the suffering caused for the legal immigrant community. The effect of USCIS processing delays and visa retrogression can be mitigated at least when it comes to obtaining citizenship.
The five year clock for obtaining US Citizenship (post Permanent Residency) must start at the time Adjustment of Status (I-485) has been filed.
For example: If you are approved for Permanent Residency after a long 5 year wait of filing your I-485, you should be eligible to apply for citizenship immediately without a further wait.
This takes away at least part of the suffering caused for the legal immigrant community. The effect of USCIS processing delays and visa retrogression can be mitigated at least when it comes to obtaining citizenship.
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pvgupt01
10-06 03:32 PM
everyone...
I was a July 2nd filer and my cheque got encashed on Oct 4th 2007:). It feels good :)and from the receipt number on back of my cheque my application is now in texas. All the best to all of you.
I was a July 2nd filer and my cheque got encashed on Oct 4th 2007:). It feels good :)and from the receipt number on back of my cheque my application is now in texas. All the best to all of you.
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joydiptac
01-07 10:57 PM
Just a thought, should we instead all request humbly and earnestly instead of urging the President of the United States to do something without delay? :D
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08-20 02:26 PM
I am currently with Teleblend and pay $50 for unlimited US and India calling (no contract). I have been with them for a long time.
But this deal from Vonage beats that.
I used to spend half my income on phone cards when i was a student 10-12 years ago.
But this deal from Vonage beats that.
I used to spend half my income on phone cards when i was a student 10-12 years ago.
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Marphad
11-19 11:52 AM
Will send this weekend.
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CADude
10-03 05:46 PM
Some member are asking for TSC Fax#
TSC I485 Dept Fax# 214-962-2632, 214-962-5441
Good Luck.
TSC I485 Dept Fax# 214-962-2632, 214-962-5441
Good Luck.
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sri1309
03-11 11:38 AM
My company is checking with some contacts how to push the idea. Recently we contacted competeamerica.org.
Nil,
Look at my reds. I gave you green and I used to have 2 greens at that time. Man, these guys dont want us to give any ideas. They just want us to wait till economy picks up..
With these two reds, I cannoit continue on this forum site anymore.. good bye guys..
OR.......
I dont care.. who cares these reds anyways.. Do the right thing.. We get reds all the time at work, game and everyhere.. I failed in two subjects in my 8th grade and lost a year.. Now I did my PhD from a top school in US.. Dont get cowed down..
These reds are sometimes to discourage efforts by some people whose interests differ from ours. I am not mad at anyone..
"Aage bado"..
But please someone give me some greens.. looks like I cannot green anyone unless I have some myself..
u r not bad... read your previous posts to give you a green..
Nil,
Look at my reds. I gave you green and I used to have 2 greens at that time. Man, these guys dont want us to give any ideas. They just want us to wait till economy picks up..
With these two reds, I cannoit continue on this forum site anymore.. good bye guys..
OR.......
I dont care.. who cares these reds anyways.. Do the right thing.. We get reds all the time at work, game and everyhere.. I failed in two subjects in my 8th grade and lost a year.. Now I did my PhD from a top school in US.. Dont get cowed down..
These reds are sometimes to discourage efforts by some people whose interests differ from ours. I am not mad at anyone..
"Aage bado"..
But please someone give me some greens.. looks like I cannot green anyone unless I have some myself..
u r not bad... read your previous posts to give you a green..
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kcforgc
05-09 09:55 PM
If you are offended, I don't give a DAMN!! I know about India very well and has been to India many a times. I know very well about the indian corruption which has no comparison with any country in the developed world. All you have to look at is the suveys from various NGOs that track corruption at various countries in the world and you can see where India ranks relative to US or UK
Hunter dude..this is not the right platform for you to promote your racist agenda. And looking at your attitude I don't give a DAMN SH*** what you think or feel. Go find a job and update your skills. Are you afraid of competition? There is competition in any field you choose not just IT.
This is not a forum for you ANTIs...you low life.
Hunter dude..this is not the right platform for you to promote your racist agenda. And looking at your attitude I don't give a DAMN SH*** what you think or feel. Go find a job and update your skills. Are you afraid of competition? There is competition in any field you choose not just IT.
This is not a forum for you ANTIs...you low life.
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rsharma
06-14 01:50 AM
All these may be true. No matter how you convince antis, they won't support any foriegn worker here. They want all of us out.
Even if authorities bans all these L1s, outsourcing will not stop. On the contrary it will intensify.
Before the 2001 recession, many companies were reluctant to outsource their work to India or other countries. When recession hit in 2001, many companies overcame this inhibition and started outsourcing jobs in large scale.
If companies find more stumbling blocks to operate their business, they will find even more innovative ways to overcome those. Remember India is no longer a back office for a low end work now. Many companies have even moved their R&D to India.
I agree to what you say. The intend of this thred is not to support/oppose the outsourcing/offshoring the jobs. The intent of this thred is the fradulent use of L1s by the offshoring companies.
If these companies play as per law then there is no issue. Everything is OK in moderation even outsourcing or offshoring. However these companies does fraudulent use of the L1s. They send endless people in L1s. Even if the person does not have hire/fire authority he/she is sent as L1A. General java/Oracle/.net developers are sent in L1A or L1B.
These people with L1s are placed at client location and they work under supervision of client manager. False names are shown in the chart under these L1As benefeciary when they are applied for renewals.
These things should be reported and should not be supported.
Even if authorities bans all these L1s, outsourcing will not stop. On the contrary it will intensify.
Before the 2001 recession, many companies were reluctant to outsource their work to India or other countries. When recession hit in 2001, many companies overcame this inhibition and started outsourcing jobs in large scale.
If companies find more stumbling blocks to operate their business, they will find even more innovative ways to overcome those. Remember India is no longer a back office for a low end work now. Many companies have even moved their R&D to India.
I agree to what you say. The intend of this thred is not to support/oppose the outsourcing/offshoring the jobs. The intent of this thred is the fradulent use of L1s by the offshoring companies.
If these companies play as per law then there is no issue. Everything is OK in moderation even outsourcing or offshoring. However these companies does fraudulent use of the L1s. They send endless people in L1s. Even if the person does not have hire/fire authority he/she is sent as L1A. General java/Oracle/.net developers are sent in L1A or L1B.
These people with L1s are placed at client location and they work under supervision of client manager. False names are shown in the chart under these L1As benefeciary when they are applied for renewals.
These things should be reported and should not be supported.
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gc_on_demand
09-15 12:37 PM
Hi Junglee, when is HR5882 scheduled again?
Is it tomorrow or on 18th?
Thanks.
It is schedule for this week . Also as per NumberUSA (which was true in term of scheduling couple times in past ) Senate is doing some back door prep for S 3114. I think we have good chance before end of this month to get this thing done.
Let call and let them know our concern.. Please keep calling and ask your spouses (if married ) to call ..
Is it tomorrow or on 18th?
Thanks.
It is schedule for this week . Also as per NumberUSA (which was true in term of scheduling couple times in past ) Senate is doing some back door prep for S 3114. I think we have good chance before end of this month to get this thing done.
Let call and let them know our concern.. Please keep calling and ask your spouses (if married ) to call ..
vinicola78
11-06 02:58 PM
I sure hope that it is not a denial. In any case, I am preparing for the worst and trying to save some money to pay the lawyers for an MTR...
rangaswamy
06-29 07:27 PM
I really think, second July is the D day here. They can't stop accepting new applications becuase of mere speculation that lot of folks can apply. If indeed thousands of people apply on the second, the numbers will become U on the 3rd. I still think if your applications gets in on the 2nd, you will squeeze in..
Its all about being at the right place at the right time..:cool:
For the nth time.. numbers are reduced only after approval and not based on receipt of application. So if you can submit it on July 2nd you submit it on 3rd and so on.
Its all about being at the right place at the right time..:cool:
For the nth time.. numbers are reduced only after approval and not based on receipt of application. So if you can submit it on July 2nd you submit it on 3rd and so on.
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