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  • sumagiri
    07-25 11:18 AM
    Well, we are talking about 'cutoff date move', not actual approved I485's. If USCIS works in full steam, the EB2 backlog will be reduced quickly, which will result in cut off date move; if they don't, the DOS has to move date forward to allow more CP, that will also cause cut off date move. So either way, the horizontal spill over rule will have a huge positive impact on the EB2 dates move

    If USCIS is not efficient, cut off dates do not help much for pending I-485s even if there is a horizontal spill over. If USCIS is efficient, there is nothing to argue, EB2 will be benefited as analyzed by vdlrao , me and many other here. I am only trying to say that USCIS efficiency and its 'Target' for each year is a crucial factor when it comes to speculation. The number of visas approved is directly proportional to agency's efficiency and its set target. Depending on that, some parameters in our calculations change . For example, If they do not use the FB to EB spill over, we will be less by 20k for the year. If USCIS and DOS only utilize 130K out of 140K, we will be less by 10K more.

    I am not pessimistic and please note that I am not contradicting any one. I my self did detailed analysis in May 2008 saying that it will wonderful year for EB2. Please find the post here.
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=246481&postcount=1422

    Hope USCIS will works efficiently..





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  • cps060
    03-19 05:31 PM
    I also have my canadian PR. I know that I have to physically stay in CA for 2 years out of 5 to keep it alive. My question is if I enter just before my fourth year and live only for one year in CA .... what would happen ? At the end of fifth year when my PR card expires, will I have to leave CA ? Or is there any other visa on which I can move to or is there a way to re-apply for PR in the last year itself ?

    Basically bcuz of the retregression I want to go to CA but I have seen so many -ve posts about job scene that I am apprehensive. Hence was wondering if I can wait till the fourth year and still this GC mess is not solved would it be possible somehow to stay in CA beyond the fifth year.





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  • vdlrao
    07-21 06:49 PM
    For 2007 we had an availability of 226,000 Family Based Visas. But the issued visas in 2007 in Family Based are 194,900 visas. That means there are 226,000 MINUS 194,900 = 31100. These 31,100
    unused Family Based Visas have been made available for 2008 Employment Based Visas of 140,000. And USCIS has 28,795 unused VISAS of American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act of 2000 (AC21).


    American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act of 2000 (AC21) had recaptured 130,107 visas.
    Out of that 94,000 were used in 2005.
    7,312 were used in 2007.

    So dont know when the available 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 will be used again.



    The unused family based visas of 2007 are 31,100 , which are going to be added for Employement Based Visas of 2008. So the total Employment based visas for 2008 are 140,000 + 31,100 = 171,100.

    Theses 171,100 EB Visas of 2008 will be split like, asuming USCIS is not using the availble 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 below.


    (If USCIS decides to use some or all of 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21, then the available Employment Based VISAS of 2008 increases accordingly. )

    28.6 percent each EB1, EB2 and EB3. 48934 VISAS for Each Category.
    And 7.1 percent each EB4 and EB5. 12148 VISAS for the last two EB categories.


    So in 2008 the total Visas for EB1 and EB2 are 48934 + 48934 = 97868 plus unused EB4 and EB5 visas of 2008.



    The total EB5 Visas usage never crossed 824 in the past 10 years(Average Usage is 376/year).

    So there would be 11148 visas available for EB1 from EB5 (assuming 1,000 visas are used in EB5 which is highly impossible)

    The unused EB4 Visas may be couple of thousand or null, based on the past 10 years EB4 usage (7,223 is the average usage)

    Assume there are only 2,000 EB4 VISAS unused in 2008 (defenitely it would be more unused).

    So IN THE WORST CASE the total EB1 and EB2 Visas for 2008 are

    48934 + 48934 + 11,148 + 2,000 = 111,016


    IN THE BEST CASE, ASSUMING USCIS USES ALL 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 FOR 2008 AND THERE WOULD BE 5,000 UNUSED EB4 VISAS, THE TOTAL EB1 AND EB2 VISAS FOR 2008 ARE GOING TO BE 111,016 +3,000(EB4)+ 2*(28,795/3) = 111,016 +3,000+19196 = 133,212



    Total (EB1+EB2) from 1998 to 2007 --> 35737, 23401 , 47821, 84222, 78484, 29859, 63825, 107328, 58871, 70859



    So IN THE WORST CASE the total (EB1+ EB2) Visas for 2008 are

    48934 + 48934 + 11,148 + 2,000 = 111,016



    IN THE BEST CASE, ASSUMING USCIS USES ALL 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 FOR 2008 AND THERE WOULD BE 5,000 UNUSED EB4 VISAS, THE TOTAL EB1 AND EB2 VISAS FOR 2008 ARE GOING TO BE 111,016 +3,000(EB4)+ 2*(28,795/3) = 111,016 +3,000+19196 = 133,212



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    Type and class of admission 1998-- 1999-- 2000-- 2001-- 2002-- 2003-- 2004-- 2005-- 2006-- 2007


    Employment-based preferences 77,413-- 56,678-- 106,642--178,702--173,814--81,727--155,330--246,877--159,081--162,176

    First: Priority workers 21,375-- 14,844-- 27,566-- 41,672-- 34,168-- 14,453-- 31,291-- 64,731-- 36,960-- 26,697





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  • whatamidoinghere
    02-19 03:01 AM
    Well discussion here. Under present situation (w/o any legislative relief) labor certification based EB folks, particulary Indians, cannot think of GC/485 for next 10 years. The problem here is, they are stopping the flood gate in 485 stage. If they (CIS/DOS) do not need high skilled immigrants, stop them in LC stage itself. Testing labor market in 2001, for a permanent job that is going to be assumed by a foreign worker only in (after 485 approval) 2010 is a joke. The best slution is market based numarical limitation without any country quota.

    Yeah its a joke and it is obvious to us that there should be legislation to fix this. However the current situation is so beneficial to the US that it may be stupid for them to try and fix it. The lack of immigrant visas isn't bringing anything down. Fresh H1B and L1 workers will continue to pour into the country and "old, stale, spent, burnt out, balding" workers will leave the country frustrated with the wait. The scientists and executives whose experience is useful to have will get into EB1 slots and stay.

    So two choices
    1. Lets continue to pay income tax, pay social security tax, spend the prime of our lives working here and then GET OUT when we are no longer needed.. OR..
    2. Lobby hard, for which we should contribute some serious money to IV. Whats holding back the EB3 folks?? the doors are almost closed for them. They should be contributing in large numbers..

    EB2 Ind & Chi.. if dates dont move for April (new calendar quarter), we better start contributing too



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  • gopinathan
    07-28 08:19 PM
    not true fellow ex-IBO. you will be surprised as how many others are there. we (desis) have a special section for ourselves ofcourse :)

    .... Unfortunately, a big number of people who are involved in this biz are Desis.

    How can you ask personal questions to someone you don't know and just met? I can't comprehend it.





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  • rahulpaper
    06-26 08:33 PM
    Ok, if the Fragomen page is the source of this rumor: can someone who is a Fragomen client ask their attorney about what's going on here. That might help clarify things a bit. (Given that they are the largest immigration law firm, there's bound to be many IV members for whom Fragomen is preparing documents.)


    Please Please Please ask the lawyer you are working with.....



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  • hopefulgc
    02-13 02:46 PM
    Agreed ... lawsuits work. The links are very encouraging.
    At the very least, we force them to respond & address the problem right away rather than just ignoring us like they have been doing all the time we have been lobbying.

    In our case, the "outs" they have to make us go away are very convenient...
    they would very likely agree to recapture.





    Lawsuits do work. Apparently nobody checked the links I posted on page 1 so here are a few examples:





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  • mchatrvd
    08-17 01:41 PM
    I agree with all of you that this is not worth talking. Instead channelize your efforts in supporting organization to contact lawmakers and make advocacy efforts.



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  • eb3_nepa
    06-28 09:17 AM
    http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/aila-cis-vb.pdf


    Karthik


    Excellent link. Good research by Macaca and logiclife.

    A couple more things guys:

    1) Matthew Oh has been known in the past to be a BIT of a sensationalist. Remember this past weekend and his scare regarding the yanking away of AC-21 provisions for I-485 filers? So lets take whatever he says with a PINCH OF SALT! ;)
    2) Let us please stop these messages about how Jesus and the saints would get their GCs processed. It may very well be offensive to some of the Christian members and to some Americans reading the forums.





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  • hebbar77
    09-04 06:22 PM
    dealsnet,

    Don�t assume that things will work like they work in YSR regime.

    If you think that, the discussion does not make any sense to you then keep away. You are assuming that IMV has compromised security. FYI, this is not a YSR forum, nor it his jagir to do a security compromise.

    True facts: I am with you on your thoughts. I feel the same for OUR country.



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  • vivid_bharti
    05-01 05:51 PM
    Your statement is uncalled for, his opinion is not from people of UP or Bihar, everwhere people have different opnions, and BTW Nitish Kumar & Mayawati are any day better than Karunanidhi, Vilas Rao Deshmukh & YSR and above all they are a million times better than Maino Antonia whom the whole country voted..... Pandey - I no longer wonder why Mulayam/Mayavati/ Lalu and Paswan rule in UP & Bihar.





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  • snathan
    05-01 11:29 PM
    friends lets not fight and over estimate ourselves ..we cannot do anything to solve or highlight our own issues ..then how can we do anything about something happening far away !!!
    that being said ..both sides are to be blamed ..SL and Tamil leaders in SL.
    SL because they treated tamils as second class citizens even though they were born in SL ..and tamil leaders because they did not accept peace offers / try to give up violence ..
    and don't compare this to kashmir ..Kashmiris (except the pandits) are not second class ..they have super / very high class status .
    as for congress party (India) ..it is the biggest villian ..why did it send army to SL ..Rajiv Gandhi should have sent his relatives first

    We are not fighting here for the LTTE or SL. We are not happy to see how our incumbant Indian govt is. This is the same fate we/our generation going to face in the future whatever may be the reason.

    Somewhere in the world when one jew is getting killed how the ISREAL govt is reacting. They never mind to go after those guys. But we are unfortunate not to have such govt.

    Well..I wont post anything in this thread anymore.



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  • ryan
    08-17 02:45 PM
    I just have to say one thing about you. You were born with a slave mentality in a third country. Its been passed to you from generations. You will go any length to prove your masters are fair and honest and its not your fault. You never experienced free, your own country by your own admission. So stop blabbering and justifying your masters, we dont buy it.

    I think your words above, speak a lot about who you are and your ways of thinking. I feel sorry for you. Hope you find the 'importance' and the 'intelligence' someday.

    Be well.





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  • gjoe
    02-15 09:38 AM
    Modern Day Slavery in the 21st century

    Any person who is restricted from making travel choices, employer choice, personal choices beneficial to himself and his family, just because his employer or the goverment is restricting him in some form to make monetary benefit for itself, is called a slave.
    I have reached the critical mass in me to take this up on my own, any legal advice and moral support from you guys would be appreciated.

    Thanks

    The current situation is a gross voilation of the constitutional right of employment at will. This amounts to Involuntary servitude which is a more techincal term for slavery. Read yourself the definition of both and make your own judgement.

    In my view (though crazy and totaly impractical) the law suit should be against all the employers because they are the one who represent Govt/USCIS in processing our Green cards. Employers told us that we will process your greencard and you will be a PR in x number of years and now that x is infinite.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will)

    At-will employment is a doctrine of American law that defines an employment relationship in which either party can terminate the relationship with no liability if there was no express contract for a definite term governing the employment relationship. Under this legal doctrine:

    “ any hiring is presumed to be "at will"; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals "for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all," and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_servitude :

    Involuntary servitude is a United States legal and constitutional term for a person laboring against that person's will to benefit another, under some form of coercion. While laboring to benefit another occurs in the condition of slavery, involuntary servitude does not necessarily connote the complete lack of freedom experienced in chattel slavery; involuntary servitude may also refer to other forms of unfree labor. Involuntary servitude is not dependent upon compensation or its amount.



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  • coopheal
    02-12 05:27 PM
    They need to pump up more numbers otherwise getting rid of quotas doesn't help much.

    Getting rid of quotas will help. We will not be in a situation where
    - EB2 is current for ROW and unavailable for India.
    - EB3 is in year 2005 for ROW and stuck in 2001 for India

    Adding more visas is a legislative process. Applying per country quota is as
    per DOL�s discretion.





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  • rishimehta
    09-12 05:25 PM
    I worked for the company X for 5 Years . During this period My labor was approved in PERM in EB3 PD 05/15/2006. My I - 140 was alos approved Sep 2006 in EB3. I left the company X & started to work for another technology company Y. In July of 2007, I applied for the I-485 via Company X based on Future employment. I-485 is pending since July 2, 2007. Also applied for EAD & Advance parole which latter got approved. Meanwhile, I have an old labor pending with Company X which got approved with PD of Jan 23, 2003 in EB 2 Category. Company X applied for I-140 based In EB2 PD Jan 2003. This I -140 got approved in May 2008. Company X requested Interfiling with USCIS. Meanwhile I Changed jod & started working for company Z with H1B Transfer.

    Here are my questions:
    Can I revoke AC21 with my new company Z?
    What happens if Company X closes before my I-485 is approved or an RFE is received.
    What should I do to minimize risk in getting Green card. Note that Company X is not in a very Good financial position currently.

    Your response is aapprciated.



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  • Legal
    07-03 10:41 PM
    documentation >to <verifying no US citizen worker was available for a given job) -
    should have been documentation verifying





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  • Openarms
    12-14 03:06 PM
    It has to be fair both ways, why can not they issue employment visa on per country basis. Then there is no argument at all. So that people won't come and stuck in the black hole.





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  • ca_immigrant
    10-15 03:35 PM
    Bhagvan saab ka bhala kare...shuruvath mere se kare.... ;)

    ie, May god bless all and may he start with me ;)

    easy, do not yell, USCIS is not going to start with me cause of my petition with God.





    mchundi
    01-09 02:11 PM
    I just got to this site via from immigration portal.
    I have been reading a lot in the other forum and here about the ways to cure retrogression. Lobbying for more Visa's and other things that were part of the S.1932 bill are fine, however these things are not going to solve the retrogression problem even if such a bill gets passed.

    No one seems to be talking about the real problem that is Labor Substitution. Abolishing Labor Substitution will itself take care of every retrogression problem.

    The INS does not have the right tools to police the misue of this rule. This is resutling in a lot of problems for even those employees whose Labor's get substituted even if they are still working in the same company.

    Any effort to reform immigration should start with first reforming the Labor Substitution rule (if not completely abolish).
    I know that all the companies/employers and the lawyers community are against removing the Labor substitution, therefore it will never be removed, but atleast it should be reformed so that it can be better policed so that no one is able to misuse it and play with peoples lives. And in turn add to retregression.

    Following reforms are needed in Labor Substitution.

    - First thing in the Labor Substitution reform is related to the Priority date. The Priority Date for a substituted Labor should the date when the Labor is substituted (or the I-140 filing date). It should not be be the date when the Labor was originally filed. This in itself will solve 90% of the problems related to retrogression.

    - When a Labor is substituted it should be verified immediately to find if there is any I-140 or I-485 that is pending based on this Labor. If so then the Labor should be rejected immediately. Currently this is not done at the time the Labor is substituted, therefore the resulting 485 filing just amounts to add up into the backlog of Visa Number requirement, until the priority date becomes current for this 485.

    - If an employee invokes the AC21 then that Labor should not be allowed to be substituted.

    - There should be a limit to the time until which a Labor can be substituted. This could be debatable and could have other consequences, as the INS could invalidate any GC application that is been pending for more than the this duration.

    In short the Labour substitution rule is in a mess and is getting miused a lot. People are getting fooled by the employers, and ultimately its making the retrogression more worse.

    neocor
    Probably true,
    I think the DOL/USCIS(I dont know who) is moving in this direction.
    The real problem is the 7% limit per country and the time it takes for one to go thru the 3 steps.
    There r several people who have started G.C process several times for different reasons. This slows them (DOL/USCIS) down and remember this is like a chain reaction until u stop applying for a G.C or AC21 kicks in.
    Bill Clinton signed some immigration relief for the illegal immigrants just before he left without allocating any resources to process them. Close to 300,000 illegal immigrants filed their labor before Apr 2001. This brought the DOL to a halt and it couldnot recover for 2 years. Finally the BEC's were created to resolve the mess created by the new law. They did not sove the problem but addressed it to some extent. For some it became worse.
    In the meantime several VISA numbers went unused because the DOL probably scrutinized the cases more thoroughly and probably there were more rejections by USCIS
    The reason why so many people look for loop holes is because of the inordinate delay in the process.
    I guess the situation will only become worse unless those who got their labor get to apply for 485 and get portability thru AC21 or dropout altogether.
    The problem with labor is partly addressed thru PERM. Over the next couple of years the BEC's eliminate the backlog and soon everybody will be in the hunt for the VISA numbers.
    The best that can be done now is the fight for more VISA numbers and be able to file for I485 whether a VISA number is available or not or anything that addresses this like
    1: increase the overall VISA numbers (McGain && Kennedy)
    2: capture unused VISA numbers
    3: Cap not being applicable for those with Masters degree in ---- && 3+ years exp before starting the G.C process (Sen. Chuk hagel)
    4: Being able to file I-485 even with no VISA number(failed S-1932)
    --MC





    hibworker
    09-15 02:57 PM
    Since EB2-I is slowly catching up with EB2-C, future spill overs will be split between the two categories and not all will go to EB2-I.



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