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  • ryan
    08-18 10:44 PM
    I'm not from India, so you know how non-Indian will look at this issue..

    And it goes on and on for 66 mins or 2 hrs until he finally realize that he's a nobody in US.

    This is the kinda thread that non-Indian will laugh at. There's lots of non-Indian that goes to this public forum (such as me). Just trying to help IV to not lose credential just because of this sorts of "indian" exclusive thread.

    I agree / hear you. The post is laughable, nevertheless if you read through the comments, you'd see being 'Indian' does not equate to having similar views. I think the majority of Indian folks who leave their homes / loved ones to make a living have more intelligence and substance to them than the bozos in 'bollywood' - a national and an international embarrassment. Admins, please consider removing this post.





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  • ash27
    04-02 11:47 PM
    Sk2006, you seem to have an issue. What is your problem if other people want to share their thoughts through this collaboration platform. I told u earlier that if u r not interested, don't go through this thread. If u are sincere, then u will not reply kiddishly and will act sensibly.... Grow up dude....





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  • u.misc
    01-25 02:46 PM
    From the day I came to this country , I have spent around $12,000 on immigration including H1-Bs, filing GC, APs, EADs extra. Not to mention the traveling for visa stamps and whole other shit load of expenses. I guess most of people who paid for filing GC did spent same amount of money.

    Hell ya, Some one got to be benefiting from my $12000.

    AILA should. I heard a lots of para legal staffs are already lost their jobs. Because there were less H1, and GC filings. Actually there is a huge economy based on immigration. If USCIS just changes the rules as they want that would affect lots of US citizens not just few immigrants.

    Lets see which businesses/people are making money out of immigration related activities.
    1) Attorney
    2) Paralegal staff
    3) Shipping guys (usps, fedex, etc)
    4) Airlines (because immigrant workers has to visit their home country periodically)
    5) Consulate
    6) USCIS
    7) Contractors in USCIS
    8) Port of Entry/customs staffs
    9) Notaries
    10) Doctors/hospitals for getting medical clearance for 485, etc
    11) Passport photo shops
    12) Airport staffs
    13) ....





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  • sgmavinkurve
    07-21 02:25 PM
    I've also been approached by Amway people both in the Bay Area and beyond. I despise their tactics and their deception as much as (or more than!) anyone.

    But let's not let it affect our community. Let's not let a few bad apples ruin that unmistakable bond we feel in America when we spot a fellow desi from afar. Now, any time I approach a desi to make a friend, I state in a jovial-yet-serious way, "don't worry, I'm not one of those Amway guys!" That's obviously not the first thing I say, but I make sure to throw that line in during the first minute or so of the conversation. If the fellow desi knows Amway, it gets a laugh, "oh, phew, that's a relief!" Once at an IKEA, I saw a desi who seemed to be following me. Turned out he wasn't following me at all. I asked him in a clearly joking tone, "Please tell me you're not with Amway!" He burst out laughing and we became friends (needless to say, he was not with Amway!).

    So why don't we all agree on a similar approach? If we meet each other in public, let's simply state that we're not with Amway. And if you're accosted, simply ask that person if they're affiliated with Amway. Plain and simple.

    How does this sound to others?



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  • Caliber
    09-04 02:08 PM
    So next time of election, take vacation and go home, do campaigning, spend money and vote out the govt. you dislike, if you are real serious.

    Thanks for your advice indeed. I can not go and vote. If I go, they will kill me. They killed several hundred people just because they did not agree to sell their lands at 1/100 of a price.

    Please do not compare Kerala with Andhra. Today's AP is nothing but earlier Bihar. YSR and gang have terrorised the whole state, govt and judiciary.





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  • BharatPremi
    10-23 04:19 PM
    You have hit the nail right on the head. They issued 225000 H1b's between the years and 2000 and 2002 but the GC quota remained the same. Also, there is no quota for H1 (large # goes to India/Chine) but there is a quota for GC.

    The idea is they want to control it so that only a third of the ppl who come on H1 end up getting a GC. They make the GC process hard one way or the other. Either you get stuck in the labor queue or in the retrogression queue. The average time to get has always been 4 years. Some ppl get lucky and get it in less than 3 and some get unluck and spend over 5 years trying to get it!

    Ultimately the question for everyone is how long are you willing to put your life on hold? If you wait long enough you will get it. They seldom reject cases (unless it was a fraudulent case).

    Here are my thoughts not legal advise:
    -------------------------------------

    One way: Wait in US for 9 years to get GC by sticking to one company,
    exploited with less salary, No promotion
    Second Way: 1) Wait for GC in USA for 3-4 years meanwhile get Canadian PR
    2) Go to Canada as a PR for 3 years - Become citizen - "Tell
    your wife" to establish company A in Canada and Company B
    in USA - Have advantage of NAFTA
    3) Come to USA via Company B on TN visa and tell your
    employer Company B to file GC for you and now do not care
    whatever years US GC takes.. As long as "Company B" has
    business and you are working get TN renewals.



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  • thepaew
    12-14 04:30 PM
    Well Said - I feel that this discussion is counterproductive. In my opinion (I am no lawyer but I feel strongly about this), there is no constitutional remedy available. The only accomplishment may be that we alienate non-Indian members.
    I know what I am about to say will trigger a lot of reaction and some resentment, but it has to be said on behalf of those who are not Indian. I think the per country limit is to ensure that people of all nationalities and races have an equal opportunity to obtain a green card and to ensure that no one nationality, group, or even sector (i.e. IT) monopolizes the so few visas that are available. In fact, in the visa lottery, countries become excluded when the number of immigrants from them reach a certain point, so we are lucky they do not do that in the Employment-based system!

    I think that by wanting to remove the per country limit so more Indians can avail of the green card quota is both asking for "special treatment" and a slap in the face for all the non-Indian IV members. The more I read the threads on this site, the more I feel that this organization is geared just to one ethnic group. I am sure that Indians probably make up the majority of members, but the founders of IV (I hope) did not want this organization to become one-sided! Please be considerate of ALL members and try to come up with suggestions that would benefit ALL members!!!:mad:





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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 04:49 PM
    well, the people who are in eb3 and cannot do anything about it, for reasons that you quoted, i agree, it is a pity. but, you know what, "life is not fair".

    it is a good thing u worry about others, and want to help them. however, when u look at those bills you mentioned and none getting passed. yes, it may look like a waste to do anything. however, we need to keep trying. with the limited resources we have, i think we should focus on "things/bills/issues" the IMPACT most people. doing something only for eb3 or eb2, in my opinion, would be even more difficult, given the progress legal immigration has made in this country. so, may be, u cud help in getting the things done that impact more people.

    and it is ur decision not to go eb2 (even, with the resources you mentioned). have to admit, thats strange. may be u r like me, who is not obsessed with a gc. however, we live in a society, in a system (however flawed it may be), and we all try to live by those rules, try to use opportunities that are available legally and make our lives, a little better.

    i came to this country in 1999, i have a MS, PHD from a reputed Comp Sci program. Many people who (still) dont know much about Computer Sci. came into the dept, got their MS and have been very successful, making tons of money. i am a guy whose bs, ms and phd is in Comp Sci. i think u will find may 2 or 3 guz out of may 10, who have a degree in CS, particularly in the undergrad. i used to be very mad at all the electrical, mechanical etc guz getting software jobs. i used to hate almost all software professionals coz i thought i had to work very had for my ranks, on my gpa and on my degrees and see there are people who are making as much as i do, with none of that. slowly, but surely, i have come to terms that "life is not fair" and then, what if fellow human beings can get good jobs, whats wrong with that?? is how i started to see it, (as long as they are good enough).

    what i am trying to say is please think in a global scale and help solve issues which can impact the MOST number of people and not just a minority. coz, the exceptions u stated, will be there for any issue.

    Jai Hind
    well, the people who are in eb3 and cannot do anything about it, for reasons that you quoted, i agree, it is a pity. but, you know what, "life is not fair".
    Yes life is not fair but when we get a chance to be fair we (And that includes me also) let it go by.

    it is a good thing u worry about others, and want to help them. however, when u look at those bills you mentioned and none getting passed. yes, it may look like a waste to do anything. however, we need to keep trying. with the limited resources we have, i think we should focus on "things/bills/issues" the IMPACT most people. doing something only for eb3 or eb2, in my opinion, would be even more difficult, given the progress legal immigration has made in this country. so, may be, u cud help in getting the things done that impact more people.
    What i porposed was doing something in the DV bill for badly retrogressed applicants (There wil be no reference to EB3 or EB2). Now the fact that this might help EB3 is because EB3 is the most badly retrogressed section.


    and it is ur decision not to go eb2 (even, with the resources you mentioned). have to admit, thats strange. may be u r like me, who is not obsessed with a gc. however, we live in a society, in a system (however flawed it may be), and we all try to live by those rules, try to use opportunities that are available legally and make our lives, a little better.
    You know what i was tempted to do EB2 but my sense of right and wrong prevented me. My mess up the already loaded and unstable system with another app when i already have one. Now for persons who are in EB3 (Please remove me from the equation) are thier not because they wanted to but because of the way thei whole immigration crap has evolved. Sure porting will help me out and i wil not need to justify this to anyone else but i will have to face myself. I know most people do not get it. It is doing right.

    i came to this country in 1999, i have a MS, PHD from a reputed Comp Sci program. Many people who (still) dont know much about Computer Sci. came into the dept, got their MS and have been very successful, making tons of money. i am a guy whose bs, ms and phd is in Comp Sci. i think u will find may 2 or 3 guz out of may 10, who have a degree in CS, particularly in the undergrad. i used to be very mad at all the electrical, mechanical etc guz getting software jobs. i used to hate almost all software professionals coz i thought i had to work very had for my ranks, on my gpa and on my degrees and see there are people who are making as much as i do, with none of that. slowly, but surely, i have come to terms that "life is not fair" and then, what if fellow human beings can get good jobs, whats wrong with that?? is how i started to see it, (as long as they are good enough).
    No comments there i agree with you

    what i am trying to say is please think in a global scale and help solve issues which can impact the MOST number of people and not just a minority. coz, the exceptions u stated, will be there for any issue.
    Global scale. I thought we were on scale of US. Please let me correct you EB3 is not a minority but a Majority in the EB community. just because a situation is not worth helping is not any reason to not step forward. I personally feel that IV can do something which will help EB3 because that i sthe only category which has no help from anyone. As for EB2 i have no grudges against them . You got your GC or will get it soon and all the best of luck to you, but if something can be done for EB3 it should be

    Jai Hind



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  • krishna.ahd
    02-14 04:11 PM
    Hi Unitednations
    I am reading your current and past posts recently.
    Seems like you have enough information ( may be insider info also) regarding Retro and Gc process.
    What is the practical solution short term and long term , Not what we like to have , i am looking for what should be ??
    Out of Goal from IV , what is practically achievable ??

    Thanks in advance for your comments





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  • greencard_fever
    07-25 11:44 AM
    EB2 India/China BECOMING CURRENT IN THE NEAR FUTURE IS INEVITABLE.

    vdlrao i really appreciate you analysis and confidence on feature of EB2..can i know your category and nationality?:D



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  • panini
    05-17 04:19 PM
    According to the latest news from Sri Lanka:

    1) All the Tamil civilians that were held hostage as human shields by the LTTE, have been rescued by the Sri Lankan army and have crossed over to safety.
    2) The LTTE have conceded defeat and said it is ready to surrender to a 3rd party.
    3)The whereabouts of Prabhakaran is not yet known but there is lots of rumors in the net saying that his body has been found and it is being investigated for DNA proof.
    4) The Sri Lankan army is still engaged in clearing out small pockets of LTTE that still remains.
    5) The whole island is celebrating with dancing in the streets, fire crackers and distributing Kiri-Bath (Milk Rice) which is cooked for very important occasions. And I wish I was there too !!!! :)

    So as you see it is all good!!!





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  • snathan
    03-30 12:29 PM
    snathan....do you really believe MMS runs the govt on his own? Do you really think there is no interference of any family in the decision making? Our PM, MMS in the last 5 years never visited all the states in the country. He never established contact with aam aadmi. MMS needs certificate from Rahul Gandhi that he is doing a good job. The person who has self respect will never become PM in these circumstances. MMS is holding PM's chair until Rahul Gandhi becomes "mature" enough to rule..yes rule..because this family has always ruled the nation and never governed it.

    No person with self respect will ever vote for this party and their chaprasis.

    I am not saying MMS is the best....but better than others. Do you believe the so called Left the savior of our country. I am not bothering who is ruling or not. My only worry - what is done for our future. I strongly believe Left was the speed bump to the development of the country. Mr.Advani dont have anything but Ram Temple. I hardly see any value in that. He runs his politics based on religon and Ram temple. Let him put the plan and vision for out future, to build stronger India....I will be the first one to vote for him.



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  • msyedy
    01-27 10:39 PM
    Can please somebody reply, is this a non profit organisation or everytime somebody ask's some innocent question he is bombarded with counter questions like have you contributed, I can understand the frustations when there are freebee's but please everybody has his limitations,this reminds of bania's in mumbai you will get your your grocerries only if you have paid your previous debt's. Please don't force anybody, this makes every core members feel cheap, if somebody has to contribute he will contribute out of guilt out, of appreciation,out of obligation, we have not forgotten our dharma that is to help anybody that helps us.

    Ignore any posts that conveys a message forcing anyone to contribute. IV core has never ever forced anyone to contribute. IV core does not have time to reply to these kind of messages.

    Please Ignore these messages.





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  • waiting4gc
    02-13 02:30 PM
    Couldn't agree with you more.

    What ever gave you the idea that EB ROW only wait for 3 years? There's this common misconception flying around here that somehow ROW just cruises by and we get GC handed to us on a platter when in fact up until yesterday EB-3 ROW was just as retrogressed as any other category not to mention that labor (pre PERM) and name check delays affected ROW just as much as everyone else. For instance, my brother, who is EB3-ROW with a PD of Dec 2002... and has been in the US since early 2000 and is still waiting in line...so do the math.

    We're all in this crap together, some worse than others... so let's stop with this ROW Vs India & China nonsense. Country quotas are unfair and frankly the entire GC process is unfair and unpredictable... We should aim for solutions that solve this issue in a comprehensive way, not by dividing us even further.



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  • ItIsNotFunny
    04-20 10:46 AM
    I am working for Company A and company B wanted to provide me with pre-approved labor of EB2 category with priority date in July 2002. The Company B's pre-approved EB2 labor was for a Master degree with salary of 80K. I have only bachelor Degree but with more than 8 years of experience in IT. My I-140 has been approved with the present employer company A but it is EB3.

    Is there any possibility to take advantage of the company B's pre-approved EB2 labor certificate considering more than 5 years of experience as a qualification though it requires a Master degree.

    Thank you.
    Based one information above, I would not go for this.





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  • vinzen
    08-18 11:20 PM
    Oh... finally!
    Welcome to IV
    There is nothing special that you have written up there in your post. This is just normal stuff that most EB folks on this forum does. Why do you have to write such obvious things? You may agree or disagree with member's opinion but its sounds very naive to preach to this community about normal life.

    Its apparent from post that you think the members other than yourself live a lower than average life? :D I guess you are mistaken.. Keep reading posts and you will eventually get to know better..

    sorry, I love preaching.

    by the way I was referring to "the guy who thinks americans think he is a slumdog...." not you or everyone. But then again you think that I think that you lead a life lower than average. If you think you agreed with me, instead of calling it obvious being defensive and, just agree with me. OK? And get that chip off your shoulder as well.



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  • dealsnet
    01-14 10:24 AM
    Good catch !!!!!!!!!!! HA....HA.......H.....AAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Woman period yes. Man period no.

    You man or woman or nether?





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  • vivid_bharti
    05-01 05:31 PM
    Thread was opened in the support of Tamil Srilanakan civilians not LTTE, India should pressurise Sri Lanka to stop attrocities & killing of civilians, but again who will say it ??? Was there a FM ? a PM ? all puppets...
    "Tomorrow if we or our generations are getting killed in the US, would you say the same thing" ....

    Of course yes! If our generations are US citizens, US govt should take care of them and if they are part of any terrorist organisation, they should be treated the way terrorists are treated.

    "Country needs to care about its people" ... Its is in your quote ... Issue is about Srilankan's and their goverment should take care of it, NOT India. I don't think any one has a doubt about how LTTE should be handled.





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  • bayarea07
    07-27 12:17 PM
    Is it your brainwashed mind that is speaking of that






    "..veracity of this statement"
    Sure pick up the phone and dial IRS, or call your accountant. Or your lawyer if you want to play it safe.
    Other people doesn't do or will never do anything, other then wearing pantyhose and tip toeing through the tulips.





    sush
    07-10 12:42 PM
    excellent move.
    hope you well buddy.





    chanduv23
    09-03 11:06 PM
    All that I'm saying is why do you need to single out one politician. Can you compare YSR with Mr. Modi(Ghodra Express Issue), Mr Advani(Babri Mazdid Issue)...on how many innocent lives have been lost because of their filthy politics...

    And mind you , you and me are working here in US cos of the open policies created by Mr.Late Rajiv Gandhi in the IT Sector. All that I'm saying is someone or something is better than none.

    For that matter do you support War on Iraq , War on Afghanistan when it comes to people lives...
    First know the facts before you comment and have guts to comment revealing your original ID and not with a hidden one....created just for the sake of it

    chill - u r working in US because have skills - got visa applied for Green card. In what way did Rajiv Gandhi help you? So do you say that everyone immigrating to USA from every country is because of Rajiv Gandhi?

    I see that u r arguing just for the sake of arguement. Come on man. expand your thinking capacity - U r responsible for your own life and you do things in life that suits you. Just like how u r a software guru, politics is also a field which has become a "career oriented" field. Now, a lot of people trashed SRK during discussions, I did not understand what his fault was, for such trashing.

    Now, the reason why a lot of people trash YSR is because of his corruptive governance - which crossed all limits.

    If you think that one has to respect someone just because he/she is a leader - that may not be practical



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