snathan
04-29 10:44 PM
...........and the point you're trying to make is???
If you don't want a GC, why are you on this forum and making anti-GC statement. A pro-GC person would agree with this statement unequivocally.
Read my statement again and tell where I am saying anything against GC...since you said no other country is charging the immigrants for border security....I am saying US is the only country which gives millions GCs every year...so when you compare there is no comparison...
If you don't want a GC, why are you on this forum and making anti-GC statement. A pro-GC person would agree with this statement unequivocally.
Read my statement again and tell where I am saying anything against GC...since you said no other country is charging the immigrants for border security....I am saying US is the only country which gives millions GCs every year...so when you compare there is no comparison...
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04-02 07:22 PM
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gc_on_demand
11-21 11:29 AM
Dear Friends,
As per yesterday�s floor summary (access link below), the House of Congress has been adjourned and this marks the end of the business activity in the house of the110th Congress. House will re-convene at 11:00 a.m. on January 3, 2009 and that will be the first session of the 111th Congress.
Floor Summary: http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html
3:02 P.M. -
The House adjourned pursuant to H. Con. Res. 440. The next meeting is scheduled for 11:00 a.m. on January 3, 2009.
HR 5882 introduced in the 110th Congress will no longer valid for consideration in the 111th Congress and a new RECAPTURE bill has to be introduced in 111th Congress with the same contents of HR 5882 in order for us to obtain some relief.
I think we should start our campaign now itself, targeting Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] and Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5], for the RE-INTRODUCTION of the RECAPTURE bill during the first week of the 111th Congress.
Also, it is very important NOT to campaign for the expansion of the scope of this bill at this point of time as that will make this bill to get ignored and become a reason to add the whole relief measures to a Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill which may take 1-2 years to get passed depending on the political landscape.
We should ask Hon. Zoe and Hon. Sensenbrenner to introduce this as an emergency relief measure and try to get this passed during the first quarter itself.
Once this bill gets introduced, we could request all previous Co-Sponsors of HR 5882 to become Co-Sponsors of the new bill.
So at this point, we should send mails to Rep Lofgren, Zoe and Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. encouraging them to re-introduce the RECAPTURE bill.
Let�s keep HOPE alive!
I was pushing it for week. I tried to email her. It didnot work out.. On her website if you are not from her constitute it will not allow to send message. I called her office to and lady asked me details first like name , address and she said I should call my local rep. Also she didnot give any details on HR 5882. I was asking support from some member from her consitute and get the thing going ..no one showed interest. People are busy on AC21 thing. I think its good for them but doesnot matter for me who didont even file I 485.
We are in such a minority in terms of immigrants. 12 mil Illegal Vs 500k legal ( who are waiting for visa ) Out of that who knows how many we are on this site ? may be 10 % or less.. and people starts campaign for AC21 which brings number even smaller. How can we get success... We should think broad. The whole point of this was forum should be for every one. I know we had done a progress. (1) We did good job on July fiasco. only helped those who were waiting for filling 485.. ( may be 90 % of population of this site . )
(2) then we did good job for 2 year of EAD
(3) Now AC21..
but this is helping only few % of us. and becoming less and less as some senior members get GC and leave site.. In order to attrack more and more people we should be broad. Our primary goal should be Backlog and increase visa .. Unless congress increase visa nothing will happen to backlog.
Good start and let me know if you need some help on this campaign.
As per yesterday�s floor summary (access link below), the House of Congress has been adjourned and this marks the end of the business activity in the house of the110th Congress. House will re-convene at 11:00 a.m. on January 3, 2009 and that will be the first session of the 111th Congress.
Floor Summary: http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html
3:02 P.M. -
The House adjourned pursuant to H. Con. Res. 440. The next meeting is scheduled for 11:00 a.m. on January 3, 2009.
HR 5882 introduced in the 110th Congress will no longer valid for consideration in the 111th Congress and a new RECAPTURE bill has to be introduced in 111th Congress with the same contents of HR 5882 in order for us to obtain some relief.
I think we should start our campaign now itself, targeting Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] and Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5], for the RE-INTRODUCTION of the RECAPTURE bill during the first week of the 111th Congress.
Also, it is very important NOT to campaign for the expansion of the scope of this bill at this point of time as that will make this bill to get ignored and become a reason to add the whole relief measures to a Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill which may take 1-2 years to get passed depending on the political landscape.
We should ask Hon. Zoe and Hon. Sensenbrenner to introduce this as an emergency relief measure and try to get this passed during the first quarter itself.
Once this bill gets introduced, we could request all previous Co-Sponsors of HR 5882 to become Co-Sponsors of the new bill.
So at this point, we should send mails to Rep Lofgren, Zoe and Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. encouraging them to re-introduce the RECAPTURE bill.
Let�s keep HOPE alive!
I was pushing it for week. I tried to email her. It didnot work out.. On her website if you are not from her constitute it will not allow to send message. I called her office to and lady asked me details first like name , address and she said I should call my local rep. Also she didnot give any details on HR 5882. I was asking support from some member from her consitute and get the thing going ..no one showed interest. People are busy on AC21 thing. I think its good for them but doesnot matter for me who didont even file I 485.
We are in such a minority in terms of immigrants. 12 mil Illegal Vs 500k legal ( who are waiting for visa ) Out of that who knows how many we are on this site ? may be 10 % or less.. and people starts campaign for AC21 which brings number even smaller. How can we get success... We should think broad. The whole point of this was forum should be for every one. I know we had done a progress. (1) We did good job on July fiasco. only helped those who were waiting for filling 485.. ( may be 90 % of population of this site . )
(2) then we did good job for 2 year of EAD
(3) Now AC21..
but this is helping only few % of us. and becoming less and less as some senior members get GC and leave site.. In order to attrack more and more people we should be broad. Our primary goal should be Backlog and increase visa .. Unless congress increase visa nothing will happen to backlog.
Good start and let me know if you need some help on this campaign.
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wellwishergc
04-10 07:24 PM
Berkeley,
I am of the opinion that issues such as 'allowing I-485 even if visa data not current' or 'allowing for application of EAD once I-140 approved' could be addressed by urging appropriate agencies to make changes to the existing regulations. As bharnik pointed out there is no effect on the visa numbers for the USCIS, by allowing this. While we fight and wait for legislation, this is a very good short-term relief.
Is it possible for IV to brain-storm on this? and come up with an approach to address this, without having to go through the congress?..
Please advise..
Sincerely,
Raj
bkarnik,
Excellent, creative question. Alas, the answer to this lies not in the INA itself but the Code of Federal Regulations.
To be specific, 8 CFR 274 a.12(c) (9) (http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20061500/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2006/janqtr/pdf/8cfr274a.12.pdf) is what allows employment authorization at the adjustment of status stage. See page 658 of the linked document.
I was about to write an explanation of 8 CFR 274, but then I found this excellent summary which describes the regulation of the employment of aliens http://www.coane.com/pdfs/workpermits.pdf
Now how do we go about changing this provision to include I-140 -- not sure.
However, it is simply a case of moving the ball around --
either you ask that people be able to file adjustment of status even if visa numbers are not available
OR
you ask that 8 CFR 274 a.12(c) (9) be amended so that people with approved I-140s be allowed to get EADs and Advance Parole.
I am of the opinion that issues such as 'allowing I-485 even if visa data not current' or 'allowing for application of EAD once I-140 approved' could be addressed by urging appropriate agencies to make changes to the existing regulations. As bharnik pointed out there is no effect on the visa numbers for the USCIS, by allowing this. While we fight and wait for legislation, this is a very good short-term relief.
Is it possible for IV to brain-storm on this? and come up with an approach to address this, without having to go through the congress?..
Please advise..
Sincerely,
Raj
bkarnik,
Excellent, creative question. Alas, the answer to this lies not in the INA itself but the Code of Federal Regulations.
To be specific, 8 CFR 274 a.12(c) (9) (http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20061500/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2006/janqtr/pdf/8cfr274a.12.pdf) is what allows employment authorization at the adjustment of status stage. See page 658 of the linked document.
I was about to write an explanation of 8 CFR 274, but then I found this excellent summary which describes the regulation of the employment of aliens http://www.coane.com/pdfs/workpermits.pdf
Now how do we go about changing this provision to include I-140 -- not sure.
However, it is simply a case of moving the ball around --
either you ask that people be able to file adjustment of status even if visa numbers are not available
OR
you ask that 8 CFR 274 a.12(c) (9) be amended so that people with approved I-140s be allowed to get EADs and Advance Parole.
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DoggyStyle
07-21 11:48 PM
If the sale takes place, it probably will be bought by either a Chinese or Indian company. Some dumb anti-immigrationists will try to block legal migration every possible way when most of their companies are either taking jobs overseas or getting sold to foreign companies. Go and find the source of what has destroyed the economy and try to fix it. No foreigner has ruined the economy.
I agree. They just blame Indians for everything they fail.
I agree. They just blame Indians for everything they fail.
hebbar77
05-18 07:07 PM
Hello Hebbar,
:) Very few countries are free of quotas...they have them under one name or another...it's just an age-old human power structure..
The proposal is good, why not try it? What needs to be done?
You made my day!
:) Very few countries are free of quotas...they have them under one name or another...it's just an age-old human power structure..
The proposal is good, why not try it? What needs to be done?
You made my day!
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sargon
08-24 03:25 PM
You have written..
....I have e-filed for Travel Authorization Document (I-131) receipt number XXXXXXXXXXX....
How would we know the receipt number of I-131 petition before filing it? Chicken and egg problem? Or am I missing something?
Date
To,
The Immigration Officer,
USCIS,
(processing center address)
Re: Application for Travel Document.
Dear Sir/Madam,
This is (YourName), I have e-filed for Travel Authorization Document (I-131) receipt number XXXXXXXXXXX. I need travel document to travel to India in the month/year to attend marriage/or some story.
I am eligible for travel document based on pending 485/AOS receipt number xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Attached are the supporting documents. Please feel free to contact me if you need any additional information.
Documents Attached:
I-765 Receipt Notice
Passport copy
I-94 copy
I-485 - Receipt Notice
Previous Travel Document copy
Drivers License copy
Thanks,
Name
Address
Phone
Email
I- 485 Receipt Number XXXXXXXXXXX
....I have e-filed for Travel Authorization Document (I-131) receipt number XXXXXXXXXXX....
How would we know the receipt number of I-131 petition before filing it? Chicken and egg problem? Or am I missing something?
Date
To,
The Immigration Officer,
USCIS,
(processing center address)
Re: Application for Travel Document.
Dear Sir/Madam,
This is (YourName), I have e-filed for Travel Authorization Document (I-131) receipt number XXXXXXXXXXX. I need travel document to travel to India in the month/year to attend marriage/or some story.
I am eligible for travel document based on pending 485/AOS receipt number xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Attached are the supporting documents. Please feel free to contact me if you need any additional information.
Documents Attached:
I-765 Receipt Notice
Passport copy
I-94 copy
I-485 - Receipt Notice
Previous Travel Document copy
Drivers License copy
Thanks,
Name
Address
Phone
I- 485 Receipt Number XXXXXXXXXXX
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vc_gc
04-02 03:33 PM
done. Good luck all.
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prinive
07-10 10:12 AM
How about boycotting CNN. The immigration community should boycott CNN. That will send a strong message to CNN with there current trouble with there rattings.
The idea is - use this guy and expose media that gives false news or that supresses real issues and force those types of media to bring our issue to limelight.
I have heard all media saying "We are immigrant nation", "we need skilled immigrants", "'We are not racist", etc.. then again the same media says "Immigrants are overstaying visas", "There is quota, we cannot do anything", same media has supressed microsoft's news about the Canada development center just because it involved immigration.
I am of a strong opinion that media is controlled by politicians, the reporters who said they will cover the flower campaign - chances are that their bosses may ask them not to or give them another assignment ???
The idea is - use this guy and expose media that gives false news or that supresses real issues and force those types of media to bring our issue to limelight.
I have heard all media saying "We are immigrant nation", "we need skilled immigrants", "'We are not racist", etc.. then again the same media says "Immigrants are overstaying visas", "There is quota, we cannot do anything", same media has supressed microsoft's news about the Canada development center just because it involved immigration.
I am of a strong opinion that media is controlled by politicians, the reporters who said they will cover the flower campaign - chances are that their bosses may ask them not to or give them another assignment ???
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svr_76
03-11 07:28 PM
Consulate officers and immigration officers at port of entry are two different categories including their education background, training etc...dont compare them. Consulate officers are first line of defence which has to be good at detecting problems.
I have no interest in your employment setup...question is -Are you paid while you are on vacation or [off project and still in this country]. And Whether that would be treated as valid employment for H1 candidate by the book of law.
If employees are not reporting fraud commited by employer because the employee want to come to US..then they are party to the fraud and hence Consulate are trying to ensure that valid employments are allowed.
If they have comeup with some requirements it would have been based on analysis of fraud reported by USCIS's H1B program itself + ICS raids + others.....
If the H1 petition says your annual salary is X and your W2 show less than that how do you explain it? It implies either your were out of work or paid-less than promised which implies that there is a potential of employer committing a fraud....
with me?
I have no interest in your employment setup...question is -Are you paid while you are on vacation or [off project and still in this country]. And Whether that would be treated as valid employment for H1 candidate by the book of law.
If employees are not reporting fraud commited by employer because the employee want to come to US..then they are party to the fraud and hence Consulate are trying to ensure that valid employments are allowed.
If they have comeup with some requirements it would have been based on analysis of fraud reported by USCIS's H1B program itself + ICS raids + others.....
If the H1 petition says your annual salary is X and your W2 show less than that how do you explain it? It implies either your were out of work or paid-less than promised which implies that there is a potential of employer committing a fraud....
with me?
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CT_Green
07-10 10:16 AM
If everyone agrees we should have a media camapign where we contact all the media outlets and let them know how CNN is providing air time to Lou Dobbs for his own propoganda against legal immigrants.
CNN should be ashamed of themselves for not providing fair reporting based on facts.
CNN should be ashamed of themselves for not providing fair reporting based on facts.
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WeShallOvercome
06-17 07:28 PM
LC applied : Dec'2003
Approved : July' 2006
I-485 RD : July' 2007
I-485 AD : Nov'2007
- How has greencard changed your life after receiving it?
A cautious sense of freedom. Suddenly a lot more opportunities opened up and more employers started to show interest. My Desi employer is suddenly on the receiving end and I dictate the terms. Yes, Still workiing with them after 6 months, but that was my own decision to stick with them. Leaving them next month for a 50% raise in salary :)
- What did you do on the day you received it?
I got up at 7:00 that morning of Dec 3rd, (starting dec 3rd my date was not current anymore) , still half asleep, checked my email and got the shock of my life --"Welcome notice sent..." checked it multiple times then woke up my wife and almost dragged her to the computer and made her read the emails with half closed eyes... Our town recieved record rainfall that day and all streets got flooded, so no work :) Went to a Thai place for dinner that night with another family who are very close friend of ours.
-How did the long wait upset your life?
The feeling of uncertanity was terrible. Had to deal with the employer on a daily basis. They sat on my paperwork for 6 weeks, made me sign a million agreements and still did not file my case in June even though my date was current. I was devastated on the morning of July 2nd and rest is very well known to everyone here.
-How did immigrationvoice help you during this long wait?
What can I say? IV took me from what I mentioned in my last point to where I am right now - Waiting for my paycheck with 50% more and above that without any doubts about it coming :)
- Would you like to continue your support to immigration voice and help others waiting?
YES - Or I wouldn' be here 6 months after gettting my GC. Sent another contribution of $50 today.(Paypal Transaction ID #23M509897Y2455252)
- Any advice for everyone?
Have faith in yourself and God. and remember whatever happens , happens for the best.. Even We agree that the GC came at the right time for us. My wife got to spend 100% of her time with our daughter until she was ready to go to a pre-school. And we got a very good friend during the DC rally.. Hello EB3Retro ! :)
Approved : July' 2006
I-485 RD : July' 2007
I-485 AD : Nov'2007
- How has greencard changed your life after receiving it?
A cautious sense of freedom. Suddenly a lot more opportunities opened up and more employers started to show interest. My Desi employer is suddenly on the receiving end and I dictate the terms. Yes, Still workiing with them after 6 months, but that was my own decision to stick with them. Leaving them next month for a 50% raise in salary :)
- What did you do on the day you received it?
I got up at 7:00 that morning of Dec 3rd, (starting dec 3rd my date was not current anymore) , still half asleep, checked my email and got the shock of my life --"Welcome notice sent..." checked it multiple times then woke up my wife and almost dragged her to the computer and made her read the emails with half closed eyes... Our town recieved record rainfall that day and all streets got flooded, so no work :) Went to a Thai place for dinner that night with another family who are very close friend of ours.
-How did the long wait upset your life?
The feeling of uncertanity was terrible. Had to deal with the employer on a daily basis. They sat on my paperwork for 6 weeks, made me sign a million agreements and still did not file my case in June even though my date was current. I was devastated on the morning of July 2nd and rest is very well known to everyone here.
-How did immigrationvoice help you during this long wait?
What can I say? IV took me from what I mentioned in my last point to where I am right now - Waiting for my paycheck with 50% more and above that without any doubts about it coming :)
- Would you like to continue your support to immigration voice and help others waiting?
YES - Or I wouldn' be here 6 months after gettting my GC. Sent another contribution of $50 today.(Paypal Transaction ID #23M509897Y2455252)
- Any advice for everyone?
Have faith in yourself and God. and remember whatever happens , happens for the best.. Even We agree that the GC came at the right time for us. My wife got to spend 100% of her time with our daughter until she was ready to go to a pre-school. And we got a very good friend during the DC rally.. Hello EB3Retro ! :)
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shamu
01-10 03:36 AM
IV friends,
Sub: Immigrant requiring info on Maternity insurance.
I need information about maternity insurance** in Texas (in particular Dallas). Your help and advice is highly appreciated.
What are your inputs on Maternity Advantage, I got this information from Pregnancy Insurance.org
Also please provide me info, if any, on hospitals which provides maternity insurance.
Any thoughs, suggestions, guidance, & information would be considered helpful is highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks,
Shamu
** for pregnant with individual health insurance which does not cover maternity.
Sub: Immigrant requiring info on Maternity insurance.
I need information about maternity insurance** in Texas (in particular Dallas). Your help and advice is highly appreciated.
What are your inputs on Maternity Advantage, I got this information from Pregnancy Insurance.org
Also please provide me info, if any, on hospitals which provides maternity insurance.
Any thoughs, suggestions, guidance, & information would be considered helpful is highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks,
Shamu
** for pregnant with individual health insurance which does not cover maternity.
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chanduv23
06-17 10:57 AM
way to go snathan "u da man :) "
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pmb76
07-20 04:57 AM
You sure are a spindoctor : You gave yourself a worthy id. Why do you have to call USCIS cruel for the choices you made ? USCIS has not separated you from your wife. You have chosen to live in this country and you have the choice to be with her or not. Remember - no one can force you to do anything in this world. Life is always a tradeoff for every living creature in this world and we must learn to make the best of it. Although I do sympathize with you - you need to grow up and stop blaming others for your mistakes.
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ronhira
07-21 10:27 PM
this guy doggystyle piss me off, i had other things to do and was not going to attend, but he made sure that i attend and expose incompetency of these impotent people. bottom line - donna wants to be the one to testify to the congress, she wants to be famous. others are idiots and can't see this. here is what happened - total waste of time. doddy is right, could not hear more than 5 distinct voices, they use different ids to make it appear that the whole world is anti immigrant, they even said that on the call, bunch of losers
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donna – put in talking points for each article.
kevin – don’t want to look artificial
donna – yes, no copying pasting,
don’t want to put ourself apart from other american in it . the good thing is republicans are on the message and this is what democrats don’t know how to do. democrats are very articulate, but do not stay on the message
core point of the talking points, want to attack h1b only, that’s the core – we are fighting to apply in jobs in our own country
remember, the business week will post link to these h1b only wanted ads
you will not see an american who’ll be happy to see these ads
goto Bright Future Jobs (http://www.brghtfuurejob.com)
durbin bill will not do enough, will only prevent these h1s to come here. but after durbin bill pass, anyone can send this job. in order to apply for a job in nj one has to through pune, india. they ask new h1b to sign bond contract, and if they leave before 18 months, they will ask to pay the fee. this is bond contract which is illegal in america since long time.
kevin – ha ha ha indentured servants
donna – exactly, ha ha, and durbin will prevent this bond contract, if u click on h1b wanted ads
#7 ads says no degree required
#8 ads this is a govt. contract and the company is minority owned - the reason we attack minority owned or woman owned company is, it’s difficult to get this status and they are violating the spirit in which they got the minority status. there is a large number of unemployed h1b, the corporation made a solemn commitment to the us americans, government and to the foreign nationals – the corporations made the commitment to pay the individual and if they let them go or fire, they fly them home. what is going on is aila is recommending to companies that they essentially intimidate h1b when they let them go, making them sign a letter that they refuse to take ticket to fly back home. this is very very important for us to know and attack
one thing that most people don’t know - the indentured comes from the bond contract – the guest workers, h1b, will be never be deported, because, under the law, theoretically, they r never suppose to become illegal. the only people who r deportable r illegals.
some lady voice – this is not a civil and not a criminal offense
donna – no, because it’s the fault of the cos, bcoz the company did not fly them home. and this is one issue that doesn’t get represented in the media. h1b – that doesn’t have job, most important thing to post is – attack that u don’t have job and can’t apply for job
the exploitation which bw is writing about can only occur when these companies can bypass us – the solution to this lies – when companies are forced to hire her
another stupid woman – yes, the it was invented here
kevin – yes, for green card, lawyers find ways around the process
donna – corporation is finding work around to hire american worker,
door bell rings… that stupid woman answering door and cause disturbance for 5 minutes, opening door, dog barking, bragging to the mail man about being on a big “conference call”….
donna - the unifying thing is – corporations are ignoring us to find legal ways to ignore us.
stupid woman - how to answer them on the forums
kevin – just basically reply, and reply, and we have overwhelming numbers on our side
when u see their comments, they have high volume for 1 or 2 days, and then they r gone. we continue to post comments sometimes use different ids and make it look like we are many of us.
donna – we r not going to win the posting game, we don’t want to win the posting game
we are positing similar information, and this alerts the journalist and we have to filter our messages, say we have 20 votes about the bypass of the talent, 20 points about the employment discrimination, we will alert discrimination whom we will refer to these articles,
nyt – article got 1000 posts, and passed to other online journals,
as soon as i started, 1 generalist quoted me and then got quoted more
so the journalist who wrote the article, and those who comes afterwards, they read the post, that is important. we want generalist to read our comments, that we cannot apply for the job, and there is employment discrimination
kevin – you can also send reporters direct emails, i emailed moira of bw - direct emails, and that’s how we got bw article
donna – remember we have a track. after labor day, this is going to be up for discussion, btw, don’t even replicate u’r opponents phrases or never repeat u’r opposition is saying about yourself, so don’t say that there is no qualified americans, say we have over abundance of skill talent, in other words over supply, never say shortage, because u’ll otherwise saying opposition’s message about you. doesn’t anybody… do we want to have a discussion on that.
kevin – we do not have to be dignified in our response
donna - there is not a human on this planet who will believe that there are “want” ads that say –americans need not apply – that will create outrage.
buddy – can i ask a question, i click on an add, it goes to indeed, so this is pulled from rss feed
buddy – so i have many friends on facebook, i can tell them about these ads.
donna – exactly, so the jobs r there but we cannot apply for those jobs. we have doj is making a ground breaking case between ‘employment right and it
silly woman – i’ve been it manager, and know many american who
btw – u’r emotional truth will move people. these people have over qualified beyond the job we are positing, and they do not get hired, and that’s the pattern. years ago, we barely know the material, and we learned on the job, and now it’s the other way around, we know it and we are over qualified
another stupid guy - they fake resumes, and they say on the resumes that they know about oracle rake and unix admin, but they don’t know anything
donna - we are laying the groundwork about the washington beltway mentality, if have to make it look like that employer deliberately pst ads
everyone here on the call has historical record, honest to god. i have a good news, we r standing up for ourself, to tell this story of bypassing the american talent, and that’s what brighfuture jobs is about. that’s what durbin bill will do for us. there are couple of people who will focus on foreign citizens. two things (1.) they will hear from us, and (2.) whether we need guest workers at all, will be taken by afl-cio will pick up. but what we will do, we have absolute unique role to play, we will explain how the culture the bypass impacts us, and the culture of exploitation impacts us. we r the only once in the country who can tell this. there is going to be a discussion in beltway about “whether”, but american worker and american it professionals
no one said that - no foreign worker can come here – that’s not the message – it’s the bypass and exploitation.
donna - no there will be a discussion about no foreign work can come
don’t ever say – h1b is when a qualified american worker can not be found. we have to say that h1b law is about the bypass the american worker – the “discussion” will be about commission – anybody heard about that. the unions are setting commission whether or not we need guest workers – theoretically, and we will come up with the stories, boots on the gound, to show them the data the fuel, makes sense? they can have their tea and whatever stuff, and we will bring the bonfire.
kevin – that nyt story about that google supposedly employee, we have to post messages there,
we have to say that – there will not be an american and naturalized citizen, who say -that its ok to exploitation. there is deep deep discussion about who is an american. alf_cio has broken the opposition, but they r talking theoretically, and we r giving boots on the ground –
employers r not giving us the opportunity to compete – it’s the responsibility of federal govt that we are able to compete.
buddy – most of these jobs are it. someone in background in it can pick up even if there is new technology, but we r shut out by people with lower skills
donna -you r wrong, u r not shut down by people with lower skills, but by corporations
buddy – say 4 h1b workers replacing 1 american workers, they network, and team up to help each other
donna - no, u can argue the cheap, that’s ok, but u cannot argue about losing the right to compete. americans love cheap labor, but we have to focus on americans not being able to compete, its not about low wages.
mike – if u’r real american u cannot work for the 3rd world rates
donna – if u’r real american, u’ll make that corporation compete for these jobs locally. if u want americans, u want to create competition amongst americans here.
when a blackman would work for 10 cents, and white man work for $10, they would choose whiteman, they choose whiteman – because they were
so if u want to argue about wages, that’s cool, u r telling people u’r competing for the job. but the focus has to be on the right to compete.
this guy rajiv was replaced by h1b when he was on h1b. ha ha ha (everyone laughs)
find an american who don’t think its ok to find the people to right to compete. we have not said this to the lawmakers. the moment we tell this to the lawmakers, they will be 100% on our side
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donna – put in talking points for each article.
kevin – don’t want to look artificial
donna – yes, no copying pasting,
don’t want to put ourself apart from other american in it . the good thing is republicans are on the message and this is what democrats don’t know how to do. democrats are very articulate, but do not stay on the message
core point of the talking points, want to attack h1b only, that’s the core – we are fighting to apply in jobs in our own country
remember, the business week will post link to these h1b only wanted ads
you will not see an american who’ll be happy to see these ads
goto Bright Future Jobs (http://www.brghtfuurejob.com)
durbin bill will not do enough, will only prevent these h1s to come here. but after durbin bill pass, anyone can send this job. in order to apply for a job in nj one has to through pune, india. they ask new h1b to sign bond contract, and if they leave before 18 months, they will ask to pay the fee. this is bond contract which is illegal in america since long time.
kevin – ha ha ha indentured servants
donna – exactly, ha ha, and durbin will prevent this bond contract, if u click on h1b wanted ads
#7 ads says no degree required
#8 ads this is a govt. contract and the company is minority owned - the reason we attack minority owned or woman owned company is, it’s difficult to get this status and they are violating the spirit in which they got the minority status. there is a large number of unemployed h1b, the corporation made a solemn commitment to the us americans, government and to the foreign nationals – the corporations made the commitment to pay the individual and if they let them go or fire, they fly them home. what is going on is aila is recommending to companies that they essentially intimidate h1b when they let them go, making them sign a letter that they refuse to take ticket to fly back home. this is very very important for us to know and attack
one thing that most people don’t know - the indentured comes from the bond contract – the guest workers, h1b, will be never be deported, because, under the law, theoretically, they r never suppose to become illegal. the only people who r deportable r illegals.
some lady voice – this is not a civil and not a criminal offense
donna – no, because it’s the fault of the cos, bcoz the company did not fly them home. and this is one issue that doesn’t get represented in the media. h1b – that doesn’t have job, most important thing to post is – attack that u don’t have job and can’t apply for job
the exploitation which bw is writing about can only occur when these companies can bypass us – the solution to this lies – when companies are forced to hire her
another stupid woman – yes, the it was invented here
kevin – yes, for green card, lawyers find ways around the process
donna – corporation is finding work around to hire american worker,
door bell rings… that stupid woman answering door and cause disturbance for 5 minutes, opening door, dog barking, bragging to the mail man about being on a big “conference call”….
donna - the unifying thing is – corporations are ignoring us to find legal ways to ignore us.
stupid woman - how to answer them on the forums
kevin – just basically reply, and reply, and we have overwhelming numbers on our side
when u see their comments, they have high volume for 1 or 2 days, and then they r gone. we continue to post comments sometimes use different ids and make it look like we are many of us.
donna – we r not going to win the posting game, we don’t want to win the posting game
we are positing similar information, and this alerts the journalist and we have to filter our messages, say we have 20 votes about the bypass of the talent, 20 points about the employment discrimination, we will alert discrimination whom we will refer to these articles,
nyt – article got 1000 posts, and passed to other online journals,
as soon as i started, 1 generalist quoted me and then got quoted more
so the journalist who wrote the article, and those who comes afterwards, they read the post, that is important. we want generalist to read our comments, that we cannot apply for the job, and there is employment discrimination
kevin – you can also send reporters direct emails, i emailed moira of bw - direct emails, and that’s how we got bw article
donna – remember we have a track. after labor day, this is going to be up for discussion, btw, don’t even replicate u’r opponents phrases or never repeat u’r opposition is saying about yourself, so don’t say that there is no qualified americans, say we have over abundance of skill talent, in other words over supply, never say shortage, because u’ll otherwise saying opposition’s message about you. doesn’t anybody… do we want to have a discussion on that.
kevin – we do not have to be dignified in our response
donna - there is not a human on this planet who will believe that there are “want” ads that say –americans need not apply – that will create outrage.
buddy – can i ask a question, i click on an add, it goes to indeed, so this is pulled from rss feed
buddy – so i have many friends on facebook, i can tell them about these ads.
donna – exactly, so the jobs r there but we cannot apply for those jobs. we have doj is making a ground breaking case between ‘employment right and it
silly woman – i’ve been it manager, and know many american who
btw – u’r emotional truth will move people. these people have over qualified beyond the job we are positing, and they do not get hired, and that’s the pattern. years ago, we barely know the material, and we learned on the job, and now it’s the other way around, we know it and we are over qualified
another stupid guy - they fake resumes, and they say on the resumes that they know about oracle rake and unix admin, but they don’t know anything
donna - we are laying the groundwork about the washington beltway mentality, if have to make it look like that employer deliberately pst ads
everyone here on the call has historical record, honest to god. i have a good news, we r standing up for ourself, to tell this story of bypassing the american talent, and that’s what brighfuture jobs is about. that’s what durbin bill will do for us. there are couple of people who will focus on foreign citizens. two things (1.) they will hear from us, and (2.) whether we need guest workers at all, will be taken by afl-cio will pick up. but what we will do, we have absolute unique role to play, we will explain how the culture the bypass impacts us, and the culture of exploitation impacts us. we r the only once in the country who can tell this. there is going to be a discussion in beltway about “whether”, but american worker and american it professionals
no one said that - no foreign worker can come here – that’s not the message – it’s the bypass and exploitation.
donna - no there will be a discussion about no foreign work can come
don’t ever say – h1b is when a qualified american worker can not be found. we have to say that h1b law is about the bypass the american worker – the “discussion” will be about commission – anybody heard about that. the unions are setting commission whether or not we need guest workers – theoretically, and we will come up with the stories, boots on the gound, to show them the data the fuel, makes sense? they can have their tea and whatever stuff, and we will bring the bonfire.
kevin – that nyt story about that google supposedly employee, we have to post messages there,
we have to say that – there will not be an american and naturalized citizen, who say -that its ok to exploitation. there is deep deep discussion about who is an american. alf_cio has broken the opposition, but they r talking theoretically, and we r giving boots on the ground –
employers r not giving us the opportunity to compete – it’s the responsibility of federal govt that we are able to compete.
buddy – most of these jobs are it. someone in background in it can pick up even if there is new technology, but we r shut out by people with lower skills
donna -you r wrong, u r not shut down by people with lower skills, but by corporations
buddy – say 4 h1b workers replacing 1 american workers, they network, and team up to help each other
donna - no, u can argue the cheap, that’s ok, but u cannot argue about losing the right to compete. americans love cheap labor, but we have to focus on americans not being able to compete, its not about low wages.
mike – if u’r real american u cannot work for the 3rd world rates
donna – if u’r real american, u’ll make that corporation compete for these jobs locally. if u want americans, u want to create competition amongst americans here.
when a blackman would work for 10 cents, and white man work for $10, they would choose whiteman, they choose whiteman – because they were
so if u want to argue about wages, that’s cool, u r telling people u’r competing for the job. but the focus has to be on the right to compete.
this guy rajiv was replaced by h1b when he was on h1b. ha ha ha (everyone laughs)
find an american who don’t think its ok to find the people to right to compete. we have not said this to the lawmakers. the moment we tell this to the lawmakers, they will be 100% on our side
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Congratulations Dinesh Sharma. I had Sch A II - that got retrogressed -- and now job loss, so I am stuck. But I am happy for you. All the best.
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07-08 12:34 PM
This is a "do nothing" congress. They dont care about immigration reforms as this doesnt have immediate affects. Frankly i have no hope. Nothing is going to happen till summer of next year.
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06-18 06:07 PM
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paskal
06-19 11:51 PM
I am a physician MD currently doing IM residency on H1B. i have a job to start from oct 2007. since PDS for india are now current, i would like to know if my employer can file PERM for a prospective employee now in june. my univerdity lawyer is not clear or rather not willing to file.
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07-21 02:52 AM
Check http://anti-antis.blogspot.com/2009/07/conference-call-to-teach-antis-how-to.html
Conference Call on Effective Posting - tomorrow, July 21st at 7:15pm
How to Post for Maximum Impact
Conference Call tomorrow night, 7:15pm Central
Labor Day marks the beginning of national discussions on the corporate visa programs that allow companies to legally bypass the US workforce. Most tech workers see this bypass and confront this bypass when they are looking for jobs. But most recent college grads will never see or confront this issue because they will never be considered for jobs their degrees qualify them to do.
This is the power of employment discrimination. This issue will be part of a national conversation on comprehensive immigration reform if we tell the truth about our own circumstances.
Businessweek will be posting their article on H-1b exploitation on Wednesday. Join me to discuss why the "culture of bypass" is the necessary precondition to create the "culture of exploitation."
Scheduled Conference Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009
Scheduled Start Time: 07:15 PM Central Daylight Time
Scheduled End Time: 07:55 PM Central Daylight Time
Type of Conference: Standard
Dial-in Number: 1-219-509-8111
Participant Access Code: 798504
Reservation:
NO, just dial in at 7:15pm Central
Text of Email Sent Last Week:
This culture of exploitation among IT labor contractors could not occur without the legal protections to bypass the US workforce. This is why the corporations are fighting hard to defend this protection and defeat the Durbin bill (S. 887).
Readers may not make the connection between this corporate malfeasance and the bypass of qualifed citizens and green card holders - but your posts can. Make sure your posts mention the Durbin bill (S.887).
Here's some talking points on corporate protections affored by visa programs:
* The H-1b corporate visa program is responsible for these crimes because it protects corporations from ever considering local talent and opening the door to this culture of exploitation. Passing the Durbin bill will end this culutre of exploitation.
* Protectionist measures in the current corporate visa programs are poisoning the IT industry - no corporation should be protected from the consequences of discriminatory hiring practices.
* American labor laws and EEO have had a powerful impact on American society. These visa programs protect corporations from employing a workforce that knows their rights and can exercise them. That's why corporations don't want the Durbin bill (S. 887) to pass.
* Far from protecting the US workforce, the Durbin bill (S.887) will give us a chance to compete for job openings in our own country, thus preventing these corporate crimes.
* It's the responsibilty of the federal government to ensure that we have the freedom to compete- and we will get this freedom to compete when S.887 passes.
* If these companies were required to seek local talent first, these shakedowns would virtually disappear.
* The discriminatory practice of recruiting abroad for US job openings now breeds a form of exploitation unimaginable to 21st century Americans. These cheats could never swindle Americans this way.
Our posts promoting the Durbin bill will be watched -- and measured -- by Congressional supporters of the Durbin bill and all of the players who will be at the table when this issue comes up in the fall.
Your posts supporting the bill and defending American labor and talent will let all the players know that American IT professionals are standing up for what they want and shaping the circumstances of our lives.
Donna Conroy
Director
www.brightfuturejobs.com
dmconroy@sbcglobal.net
Conference Call on Effective Posting - tomorrow, July 21st at 7:15pm
How to Post for Maximum Impact
Conference Call tomorrow night, 7:15pm Central
Labor Day marks the beginning of national discussions on the corporate visa programs that allow companies to legally bypass the US workforce. Most tech workers see this bypass and confront this bypass when they are looking for jobs. But most recent college grads will never see or confront this issue because they will never be considered for jobs their degrees qualify them to do.
This is the power of employment discrimination. This issue will be part of a national conversation on comprehensive immigration reform if we tell the truth about our own circumstances.
Businessweek will be posting their article on H-1b exploitation on Wednesday. Join me to discuss why the "culture of bypass" is the necessary precondition to create the "culture of exploitation."
Scheduled Conference Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009
Scheduled Start Time: 07:15 PM Central Daylight Time
Scheduled End Time: 07:55 PM Central Daylight Time
Type of Conference: Standard
Dial-in Number: 1-219-509-8111
Participant Access Code: 798504
Reservation:
NO, just dial in at 7:15pm Central
Text of Email Sent Last Week:
This culture of exploitation among IT labor contractors could not occur without the legal protections to bypass the US workforce. This is why the corporations are fighting hard to defend this protection and defeat the Durbin bill (S. 887).
Readers may not make the connection between this corporate malfeasance and the bypass of qualifed citizens and green card holders - but your posts can. Make sure your posts mention the Durbin bill (S.887).
Here's some talking points on corporate protections affored by visa programs:
* The H-1b corporate visa program is responsible for these crimes because it protects corporations from ever considering local talent and opening the door to this culture of exploitation. Passing the Durbin bill will end this culutre of exploitation.
* Protectionist measures in the current corporate visa programs are poisoning the IT industry - no corporation should be protected from the consequences of discriminatory hiring practices.
* American labor laws and EEO have had a powerful impact on American society. These visa programs protect corporations from employing a workforce that knows their rights and can exercise them. That's why corporations don't want the Durbin bill (S. 887) to pass.
* Far from protecting the US workforce, the Durbin bill (S.887) will give us a chance to compete for job openings in our own country, thus preventing these corporate crimes.
* It's the responsibilty of the federal government to ensure that we have the freedom to compete- and we will get this freedom to compete when S.887 passes.
* If these companies were required to seek local talent first, these shakedowns would virtually disappear.
* The discriminatory practice of recruiting abroad for US job openings now breeds a form of exploitation unimaginable to 21st century Americans. These cheats could never swindle Americans this way.
Our posts promoting the Durbin bill will be watched -- and measured -- by Congressional supporters of the Durbin bill and all of the players who will be at the table when this issue comes up in the fall.
Your posts supporting the bill and defending American labor and talent will let all the players know that American IT professionals are standing up for what they want and shaping the circumstances of our lives.
Donna Conroy
Director
www.brightfuturejobs.com
dmconroy@sbcglobal.net
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