h1techSlave
06-12 12:15 PM
One big missing piece in your analysis - Country quota.
As per your analysis, there are around 125K pending cases. If there is no spill over (that is the case this year and that will be the case for the coming years as per State dept.), then EB3-I or EB2-I gets only 2700 visas per year.
Now, please redo your math and you can easily see that the current retrogress might look like there is hardly any retrogression.
This is my thought process (also referred by Ron G):
July 2007 brought in approximately 500K 485 cases.
We do not know how many cases were pending as of June 2007.
Fiscal year 2007-2008 USCIS used over 140K EB VISA numbers (I think it was around 155K).
Fiscal year 2008-2009 USCIS will use atleast 140K EB VISA numbers
so, 500K - 300K = 200K.
Assuming USICS approval rate is 85%; 75K of 500K are denied.
200K - 75K = 125K EB cases pending from the July 2007 cases.
Additions: from all current categories - may be 25 K in 2 years?
So, 150 K plus whatever that was pending as of June 2007.
So next fiscal year, 2009 if USCIS uses the quota 140 K, most or all of the 2007 filings will be cleared. If not EB3 I, definitely EB2 I and C, EB3 ROW will be cleared.
Depending on new filings, EB3 I might retrogress but retrogression might come within 3-4 years instead of current 8 years.
I strongly believe, beginning Jan 2010, dates for EB2 (I and C) will move forward heaps and bounds followed by EB3 ROW.
As per your analysis, there are around 125K pending cases. If there is no spill over (that is the case this year and that will be the case for the coming years as per State dept.), then EB3-I or EB2-I gets only 2700 visas per year.
Now, please redo your math and you can easily see that the current retrogress might look like there is hardly any retrogression.
This is my thought process (also referred by Ron G):
July 2007 brought in approximately 500K 485 cases.
We do not know how many cases were pending as of June 2007.
Fiscal year 2007-2008 USCIS used over 140K EB VISA numbers (I think it was around 155K).
Fiscal year 2008-2009 USCIS will use atleast 140K EB VISA numbers
so, 500K - 300K = 200K.
Assuming USICS approval rate is 85%; 75K of 500K are denied.
200K - 75K = 125K EB cases pending from the July 2007 cases.
Additions: from all current categories - may be 25 K in 2 years?
So, 150 K plus whatever that was pending as of June 2007.
So next fiscal year, 2009 if USCIS uses the quota 140 K, most or all of the 2007 filings will be cleared. If not EB3 I, definitely EB2 I and C, EB3 ROW will be cleared.
Depending on new filings, EB3 I might retrogress but retrogression might come within 3-4 years instead of current 8 years.
I strongly believe, beginning Jan 2010, dates for EB2 (I and C) will move forward heaps and bounds followed by EB3 ROW.
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lalithkx
08-13 10:40 PM
My case exactly like yours. Mine expires on Sep 24 th. E-filed on may 28th. FP'ed on June 23rd. Concurrently filed APs got approved long back.
I think Info Pass is the best solution for this. You have only a few days for that. So hang on.
I am planning to take info pass too. But to ask for expedite request, I think 90 days should have passed since application sent.
My Above mentioned EAD is approved today. I got the Card ordered mail from CRIS today at 7 pm...
I think Info Pass is the best solution for this. You have only a few days for that. So hang on.
I am planning to take info pass too. But to ask for expedite request, I think 90 days should have passed since application sent.
My Above mentioned EAD is approved today. I got the Card ordered mail from CRIS today at 7 pm...
eb3_nepa
01-13 02:40 PM
Same old story with EB3 India
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bbenhill
12-31 03:27 PM
You create your own luck, my friend!! God is not working against you or anybody else.
Very unexpectedly, just last year in a hospital, the doctor told me that unless I get operated ASAP, there is not much chance for me to live. As I was still trying to digest that news, I was thinking...
***k the Green card. ***k my job. I just want to live few more years until my son grows to at least 18 (he was just 1-and-a-half at that time).
And I really laugh about the whole incident now. And when I see others vent or getting upset about something, I can't help but get a smile. Because I learnt the hard way that we never appreciate what we have got and always complains about what we haven't got.
It's New Year time!! Enjoy and cherish your presence. And forget about the job/visa for a day or two.
I agree with you Punjabi, I just got an car accident awhile back and thought the same thing like you. even a NORMAL situation is a blessing. we should always appreciate everything that we have and then from there maybe all the things that we always want will come by themselves.
Happy New years All ... Let's enjoy and appreciate whatever that we have :)
Hopefully next year will be better that this year.
Regards,
Very unexpectedly, just last year in a hospital, the doctor told me that unless I get operated ASAP, there is not much chance for me to live. As I was still trying to digest that news, I was thinking...
***k the Green card. ***k my job. I just want to live few more years until my son grows to at least 18 (he was just 1-and-a-half at that time).
And I really laugh about the whole incident now. And when I see others vent or getting upset about something, I can't help but get a smile. Because I learnt the hard way that we never appreciate what we have got and always complains about what we haven't got.
It's New Year time!! Enjoy and cherish your presence. And forget about the job/visa for a day or two.
I agree with you Punjabi, I just got an car accident awhile back and thought the same thing like you. even a NORMAL situation is a blessing. we should always appreciate everything that we have and then from there maybe all the things that we always want will come by themselves.
Happy New years All ... Let's enjoy and appreciate whatever that we have :)
Hopefully next year will be better that this year.
Regards,
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Sree Swathi
04-21 02:26 PM
why dont you go back to home and live with them. keep visiting US to maintain your GC,.
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Please be positive. Please support our request.
US is a great country. Always value human values more than any other country.
I love US. That is why i am here.
I heard famous indian crab stroy....are you that crab.
Please be positive. Please support our request.
US is a great country. Always value human values more than any other country.
I love US. That is why i am here.
crazyghoda
01-14 08:09 PM
I dont think this bills has anything favourable to legal immigrants... It better to apply as the other category ....
I think someone finally saw the light here.
Cant you guys see the HUGE change that this is. Get out of the whole legal-illegal pissing match. This change will make the US immigration system in line with that of the UK. You get here. You stay here for 5 years. You apply and be granted Permanent Residency. Thats it.
Will that open the floodgates? Sure they will. How will they be countered? By making it very very difficult for employers to hire foreigners. If you are already here, you are fine.
Employers who hire illegal folks will face tough sanctions. the new eVerify system will probably now be mandatory for all. That takes care of those employers who were in the Dont ask, Dont tell (not talking about the military policy towards gays here) attitude. It wont weed out everyone and there will still be some guys who will work for cash, etc but it will reduce this significantly.
Employers who abuse the H1 system will now have to do lots more to prove that they couldnt find a qualified US worker. The desi employers that everyone loves to hate will find it very hard to stay in business anymore.
The big IT companies like TCS and Patni who pay 40-50K to someone with 7 yrs of work exp (like I was) will now be forced to hire from the US market thus eliminating the chances of abuse. Unfortunately it will depress IT wages in India because these biggies will need to show some kind of cost savings to do work offshore otherwise most companies will decide to bring the work back since its just not worth it to handle the hassles of offshore work. But overall it will bring some kind of balance.
All a person now will need to do is get here and manage to hold on to some job for 5 years and you will be through.
Lets see how much of this bill actually makes it out. As far as I can see, I am prefectly fine with refiling my application under this new category. The hell with EB based green cards. USCIS can take the whole EB1-EB2-EB3 and stick it where it belongs.
I think someone finally saw the light here.
Cant you guys see the HUGE change that this is. Get out of the whole legal-illegal pissing match. This change will make the US immigration system in line with that of the UK. You get here. You stay here for 5 years. You apply and be granted Permanent Residency. Thats it.
Will that open the floodgates? Sure they will. How will they be countered? By making it very very difficult for employers to hire foreigners. If you are already here, you are fine.
Employers who hire illegal folks will face tough sanctions. the new eVerify system will probably now be mandatory for all. That takes care of those employers who were in the Dont ask, Dont tell (not talking about the military policy towards gays here) attitude. It wont weed out everyone and there will still be some guys who will work for cash, etc but it will reduce this significantly.
Employers who abuse the H1 system will now have to do lots more to prove that they couldnt find a qualified US worker. The desi employers that everyone loves to hate will find it very hard to stay in business anymore.
The big IT companies like TCS and Patni who pay 40-50K to someone with 7 yrs of work exp (like I was) will now be forced to hire from the US market thus eliminating the chances of abuse. Unfortunately it will depress IT wages in India because these biggies will need to show some kind of cost savings to do work offshore otherwise most companies will decide to bring the work back since its just not worth it to handle the hassles of offshore work. But overall it will bring some kind of balance.
All a person now will need to do is get here and manage to hold on to some job for 5 years and you will be through.
Lets see how much of this bill actually makes it out. As far as I can see, I am prefectly fine with refiling my application under this new category. The hell with EB based green cards. USCIS can take the whole EB1-EB2-EB3 and stick it where it belongs.
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Marphad
01-13 02:52 PM
vdlrao, I know you are looking at this thread. Any comments?
By the way, Where is logiclife these days?
Who is logiclife?
By the way, Where is logiclife these days?
Who is logiclife?
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coolvigo
11-05 10:25 PM
Dear friend
It looks like you can show some light on my stuggle with ICICI bank to deposit money in My ICICI NRE account.
Story is like this, I went to India this summer deposited money to several mutual funds from my ICICI NRe account. One of the investment (in franklin ) was wrong by the mistake of my agent ( because US person can not invest in some of the US based mututal funds and frankln is US based fund) So I had to struggle to get money back from Franklin, as it was not proper investment ( wer mentioned NRE US based in forms, so they should have out right rejected investment, but they alloted it and then I have to fght back to get it returned)
Luckly due to my correct application I was able to get money back from franklin. they issued RS check, which I tried to deposit to my NRE account at ICICI bank. ICICI rejected check saying it is in RS. I tried to persue them it is REFUND FROM MUTUAL FUND (NRE INVESTMENT) from the same ICICI account but they still wants the proof that it NRE money. I have still this check bouncing back between me and ICCI bank. I also approached franklin to get letter. This time they have qouted some earlier RBI rule ( I have not read letter) and I am trying to redeposit that with check again.
Here in this My bigger question is we all are investing lot of Money from NRE account in Mutual funds and other investment options available to US in India as NRI. but when it comes to getting money back in our NRE account ( naturally all returns/refunds from India investment will be in RUPEES CHECKS ONLY) then we have big trouble like One I am facing right now.
SO DOES OUR INVESTMENT IS TRUELY REPRETRIABLE.
WE CAN GET OUR ORIGINAL INVESTMENT AS WELL AS GAINS ON THAT BACK TO NRE ACCOUNT OR NOT
IS IT THE ICICI BANK ONLY or ALL OTHER BANKS ARE GIVING TROUBLE wHEN WE TRY TO REDEPOSIT OUR MONEY ( in rupees) back to our NRE account.
Please explain your experiences in this regard.
If possible also provide links that talk in more details about REPRETRIABILITY OF NRE INVESTMENT
Also let me know which is best NRE bank to work with without any such hassles in India?
Dude,
ICICI sucks......i hate those guys.....their claims are big but poor banking and customer service......personally i have found SBI to be best although they are little slow.
On the top of it....sending money for investment is a bad idea......I have already lost money in it....and now facing issues getting money back.
In the whole episode, I lost so much peace of mind that money that grew in India was not worth........I guess there is a limit to what we want but greed inside us still ask us to invest.....let it be hard way....but I have learnt a lesson....if I have to live in US....it is better that I find investment opportunities here and live a "peaceful life". At the end we all need peace !!!
It looks like you can show some light on my stuggle with ICICI bank to deposit money in My ICICI NRE account.
Story is like this, I went to India this summer deposited money to several mutual funds from my ICICI NRe account. One of the investment (in franklin ) was wrong by the mistake of my agent ( because US person can not invest in some of the US based mututal funds and frankln is US based fund) So I had to struggle to get money back from Franklin, as it was not proper investment ( wer mentioned NRE US based in forms, so they should have out right rejected investment, but they alloted it and then I have to fght back to get it returned)
Luckly due to my correct application I was able to get money back from franklin. they issued RS check, which I tried to deposit to my NRE account at ICICI bank. ICICI rejected check saying it is in RS. I tried to persue them it is REFUND FROM MUTUAL FUND (NRE INVESTMENT) from the same ICICI account but they still wants the proof that it NRE money. I have still this check bouncing back between me and ICCI bank. I also approached franklin to get letter. This time they have qouted some earlier RBI rule ( I have not read letter) and I am trying to redeposit that with check again.
Here in this My bigger question is we all are investing lot of Money from NRE account in Mutual funds and other investment options available to US in India as NRI. but when it comes to getting money back in our NRE account ( naturally all returns/refunds from India investment will be in RUPEES CHECKS ONLY) then we have big trouble like One I am facing right now.
SO DOES OUR INVESTMENT IS TRUELY REPRETRIABLE.
WE CAN GET OUR ORIGINAL INVESTMENT AS WELL AS GAINS ON THAT BACK TO NRE ACCOUNT OR NOT
IS IT THE ICICI BANK ONLY or ALL OTHER BANKS ARE GIVING TROUBLE wHEN WE TRY TO REDEPOSIT OUR MONEY ( in rupees) back to our NRE account.
Please explain your experiences in this regard.
If possible also provide links that talk in more details about REPRETRIABILITY OF NRE INVESTMENT
Also let me know which is best NRE bank to work with without any such hassles in India?
Dude,
ICICI sucks......i hate those guys.....their claims are big but poor banking and customer service......personally i have found SBI to be best although they are little slow.
On the top of it....sending money for investment is a bad idea......I have already lost money in it....and now facing issues getting money back.
In the whole episode, I lost so much peace of mind that money that grew in India was not worth........I guess there is a limit to what we want but greed inside us still ask us to invest.....let it be hard way....but I have learnt a lesson....if I have to live in US....it is better that I find investment opportunities here and live a "peaceful life". At the end we all need peace !!!
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return_to_india
10-01 10:25 PM
I and my wife are debating whether to apply OCI or PIO card for our son who was born in US and has a US passport. We both hold Indian passport.
Can you experts please suggest which is the better route? The Indian consulate phone number is of not much help. It just keeps going in infinite loop and does not connect to a real person.
To best of my knowledge, at least one parent must have US citizenship to get OCI ( the rules were different earlier - may be 3-4 years back ).
Here is the san francisco Indian consulate OCI V/s PIO card link:
http://www.cgisf.org/oc/oci-chart.pdf
Consulate website : http://www.cgisf.org/
PIO Info : Consular Info (http://www.cgisf.org/pio/pioservices.html)
OCI Info : Overseas Citizenship of India Menu (http://www.cgisf.org/oc/index.html)
As for registering with police ( with PIO card ) every 6 months, i am not sure.
Some of my friends say one needs to send a letter to some regional dsp office.
Anybody has more info ( i mean the families with us citizen kid who moved
back to India and staying there with PIO card ? ) ?
Can you experts please suggest which is the better route? The Indian consulate phone number is of not much help. It just keeps going in infinite loop and does not connect to a real person.
To best of my knowledge, at least one parent must have US citizenship to get OCI ( the rules were different earlier - may be 3-4 years back ).
Here is the san francisco Indian consulate OCI V/s PIO card link:
http://www.cgisf.org/oc/oci-chart.pdf
Consulate website : http://www.cgisf.org/
PIO Info : Consular Info (http://www.cgisf.org/pio/pioservices.html)
OCI Info : Overseas Citizenship of India Menu (http://www.cgisf.org/oc/index.html)
As for registering with police ( with PIO card ) every 6 months, i am not sure.
Some of my friends say one needs to send a letter to some regional dsp office.
Anybody has more info ( i mean the families with us citizen kid who moved
back to India and staying there with PIO card ? ) ?
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transpass
02-23 12:12 PM
Research has shown over and over again that "talent, mental capacity, innovation and learning abilities are distributed evenly among different races and ethnic people..."
So there is no dearth of talent in south asia or any part of the world when compared to US or west. It's just that there is a difference in harnessing that talent...
Look at this way...You might like indian classical, but you might not appreciate western opera...That does not mean that western opera is not upto standards, or vice versa...AR Rahman's music is exceptional...no doubt about that...Because of the way movie makers want in India, it is geared towards indian market...It would be suicidal for indian movie makers if they ignore that...
Moreover, until recently, there was no separation between movies and music...Music is pretty much wedded to movies and vice versa...Whereas in the west, music is a separate entity and an industry of it's own...If you have a separate entity like that, it is easier to put your skills in a variety of ways and therefore easier to showcase your talent and easier for others to spot the talent...
Also, in India, movie industry is more paternal of nature...Barring few exceptions, irrespective of talent, some actor/musician, etc. get the roles because his/her family is tied to the industry...(Although it's slowly changing now)...Because of this, you might not get the best talent even though it's out there. Ofcourse, in the west also, you might see the same here and there, but IMO, it's more prevalent in indian cinema...
Lastly, spotting talent greatly depends on the director. In India, we hardly have exceptional directors...Also, I suspect the directors in India are given as much freehand as we hear in the west. If I remember correctly, it was said that it was an accident that AR got the chance in the movies by accident...I think ramgopal (/or maniratnam) (when he was yet to make name for himself) wanted ilayraja to score his movie way back, and was told that he was busy...Stung by it, the director brought AR and from there, the rest was history...
But nonetheless, better late than never and AR achieved it in a big way by winning two in a night...
So there is no dearth of talent in south asia or any part of the world when compared to US or west. It's just that there is a difference in harnessing that talent...
Look at this way...You might like indian classical, but you might not appreciate western opera...That does not mean that western opera is not upto standards, or vice versa...AR Rahman's music is exceptional...no doubt about that...Because of the way movie makers want in India, it is geared towards indian market...It would be suicidal for indian movie makers if they ignore that...
Moreover, until recently, there was no separation between movies and music...Music is pretty much wedded to movies and vice versa...Whereas in the west, music is a separate entity and an industry of it's own...If you have a separate entity like that, it is easier to put your skills in a variety of ways and therefore easier to showcase your talent and easier for others to spot the talent...
Also, in India, movie industry is more paternal of nature...Barring few exceptions, irrespective of talent, some actor/musician, etc. get the roles because his/her family is tied to the industry...(Although it's slowly changing now)...Because of this, you might not get the best talent even though it's out there. Ofcourse, in the west also, you might see the same here and there, but IMO, it's more prevalent in indian cinema...
Lastly, spotting talent greatly depends on the director. In India, we hardly have exceptional directors...Also, I suspect the directors in India are given as much freehand as we hear in the west. If I remember correctly, it was said that it was an accident that AR got the chance in the movies by accident...I think ramgopal (/or maniratnam) (when he was yet to make name for himself) wanted ilayraja to score his movie way back, and was told that he was busy...Stung by it, the director brought AR and from there, the rest was history...
But nonetheless, better late than never and AR achieved it in a big way by winning two in a night...
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Thecardnyc
07-19 11:57 AM
PD: Feb 04, EB3
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I-485 - Delivered on July 2nd, 9.01 AM; NSC
I-140 Pending
I-485 - Delivered on July 2nd, 9.01 AM; NSC
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stupendousman11
08-04 10:29 AM
Have printed out the petition. Will be sending out to 2 Senators and all 13 Representatives in North Carolina.
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jsb
08-05 09:29 AM
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As far as talking about peers, I consider IV folks to be my peers too. ;)
As another member of Austria has pointed out, if something has to be in a regional language, as a courtesy, provide english translation as well. Talking about your peers: I am sure you don't communicate with your Chinese, Polish & American peers in your regional language.
As far as talking about peers, I consider IV folks to be my peers too. ;)
As another member of Austria has pointed out, if something has to be in a regional language, as a courtesy, provide english translation as well. Talking about your peers: I am sure you don't communicate with your Chinese, Polish & American peers in your regional language.
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unseenguy
08-02 01:46 AM
Some are :
eternal optimistic
hopelessly optimistic
cautiously optimistic
critically pessimistic
eternally pessimistic.
Instead of playing this game like a lotto better plan and invest for your future :) I think that would pay off much better than this nonsense bulletin.
eternal optimistic
hopelessly optimistic
cautiously optimistic
critically pessimistic
eternally pessimistic.
Instead of playing this game like a lotto better plan and invest for your future :) I think that would pay off much better than this nonsense bulletin.
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05-31 10:09 AM
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http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1597944-advocacy-days-frequently-asked-questions.html#post1961366
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1597944-advocacy-days-frequently-asked-questions.html#post1961366
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05-22 12:46 PM
Are they processing based on received date or notice date???
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01-14 11:40 AM
I just filed, but I do not have patience to wait and watch every bulletin.. we have to do bring more attention to problem.
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11-29 12:16 PM
Here is what you should do:
1. Print this memorandum
http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/news/2006,0913-aytes.pdf
2. Take it and go for infopass.
3. Insist that they follow the procedures outlined in the memo. Do not leave until they do what they have to do according to the memo. They have to provide you a receipt that they followed the procedures.
4. Get your EAD within a week or so after infopass.
1. Print this memorandum
http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/news/2006,0913-aytes.pdf
2. Take it and go for infopass.
3. Insist that they follow the procedures outlined in the memo. Do not leave until they do what they have to do according to the memo. They have to provide you a receipt that they followed the procedures.
4. Get your EAD within a week or so after infopass.
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unbreakable
07-14 04:37 PM
I have just sent it to Senator. George Voinvoich (R-OH) and Senator. Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
kartikiran
07-01 10:29 AM
..and why not EB2 to EB1 and EB1 to EB1-NIW..and so on...
because the backlog for EB3 is currently staring at close to 10 years and an EB2 requirement is around 5 years of progressive experience, which might enable many of them who would have progressed in their careers due to a 10 year wait for green card.
Why not EB2 to EB1 is because, EB1 is for exceptionally skilled people(athletes, doctors, multi-national managers(via L1A) etc). For EB2 candidates to be pushed to EB1, they need to exceptionally skilled which cannot be gained via experience but by acquiring skills which will place them in those categories.
If they can acquire those skills, then they automatically qualify for EB1 or EB1-NIW and can apply anytime by themselves. Note, EB1 does not need a labor approval too.
Hope that makes clear the distinction between EB1, EB2 & EB3. Employment-based GC applying lessons 101...of course this is the simplest one...:D
because the backlog for EB3 is currently staring at close to 10 years and an EB2 requirement is around 5 years of progressive experience, which might enable many of them who would have progressed in their careers due to a 10 year wait for green card.
Why not EB2 to EB1 is because, EB1 is for exceptionally skilled people(athletes, doctors, multi-national managers(via L1A) etc). For EB2 candidates to be pushed to EB1, they need to exceptionally skilled which cannot be gained via experience but by acquiring skills which will place them in those categories.
If they can acquire those skills, then they automatically qualify for EB1 or EB1-NIW and can apply anytime by themselves. Note, EB1 does not need a labor approval too.
Hope that makes clear the distinction between EB1, EB2 & EB3. Employment-based GC applying lessons 101...of course this is the simplest one...:D
gauravster
01-15 11:38 AM
In times like these, we should look at the employment generation capabilities of the skilled immigrants. The argument that skilled labor would take US jobs and increase unemployment does not hold as those with 5+ years experience in the US in a skilled position are very likely to start new business, have career in new fields at managerial positions, buy a house, etc which will in itself be a huge stimulus to the economy.
The same cannot be said about unskilled labor though.
Yoda says:
Bill hard to be approved that it is.
Unemployment rising for Americans rapidly it is. Tough to let more immigrants like us get jobs from Americans. Obama try he will.
Be the Force be with you. IV contribute more should you.
The same cannot be said about unskilled labor though.
Yoda says:
Bill hard to be approved that it is.
Unemployment rising for Americans rapidly it is. Tough to let more immigrants like us get jobs from Americans. Obama try he will.
Be the Force be with you. IV contribute more should you.
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