shreekhand
10-28 09:13 AM
Yes... benchmarking is good (in many things as you suggest quality, corruption, infrastructure etc.)... but absolutely not in everything as you suggest, some things just aren't comparable given some micro-economic conditions. Further, doing so would also encourage the mindset of aping the developed countries in every department. Remember the India that we see has gone through hundreds of social and economic cycles over thousands of years. It is not a nation that came to being a few hundred years ago and was a developed country (in current terms) many times in the past.
If one learns history then one also learns not to just take a slice of it for generalization! A holistic view of what happened in the past globally and our current state makes one realize the hidden riches and clear shortcomings in any nation. One need not level out it's hidden riches to clear the shortcomings !
Yes its pretty much difficult for an Indian to arrive here and find a job. Forget about settling, many EB3s have already crossed 5-10 year mark. EB2 at least 5.
I guess he left out the point about locals moving to non-IT related fields in which the salaries are very slowly catching up to IT. These need to grow now with govt, private sector support, now that the glamour of US GC is almost non-existent for new IT graduates and almost pays back like the typical 20 year LIC policy of the 1990s I had. India has always been good in other industries like Textile, steel, cars, etc, and need to get some to world class levels.
I was going to say infrastructure is improving and things would get very good in India in 5-10 years (?) that US IT folks would seriously not find a difference in lifestyle.
But then I saw one of the recent movie hits, and saw the most stuff seemed to be incredulous, unbelievable - good songs though. I change my mind most times when I read some local news or see an occasional movie.
Is there a fundamental change in thinking needed in some areas among a vast majority? something to do with realism, acheiving quality in everything.
Corruption doesn't seem to be the only problem.
Money may not always be the primary reason for people to relocate to India. It will be an oppurtunity to experience the best quality of work, education and learning, the same reason many of us come here.
There has to be more aggressive regular benchmarking of everything with developed countries.
I guess its also a normal part of evolution to a future developed country.
If one learns history then one also learns not to just take a slice of it for generalization! A holistic view of what happened in the past globally and our current state makes one realize the hidden riches and clear shortcomings in any nation. One need not level out it's hidden riches to clear the shortcomings !
Yes its pretty much difficult for an Indian to arrive here and find a job. Forget about settling, many EB3s have already crossed 5-10 year mark. EB2 at least 5.
I guess he left out the point about locals moving to non-IT related fields in which the salaries are very slowly catching up to IT. These need to grow now with govt, private sector support, now that the glamour of US GC is almost non-existent for new IT graduates and almost pays back like the typical 20 year LIC policy of the 1990s I had. India has always been good in other industries like Textile, steel, cars, etc, and need to get some to world class levels.
I was going to say infrastructure is improving and things would get very good in India in 5-10 years (?) that US IT folks would seriously not find a difference in lifestyle.
But then I saw one of the recent movie hits, and saw the most stuff seemed to be incredulous, unbelievable - good songs though. I change my mind most times when I read some local news or see an occasional movie.
Is there a fundamental change in thinking needed in some areas among a vast majority? something to do with realism, acheiving quality in everything.
Corruption doesn't seem to be the only problem.
Money may not always be the primary reason for people to relocate to India. It will be an oppurtunity to experience the best quality of work, education and learning, the same reason many of us come here.
There has to be more aggressive regular benchmarking of everything with developed countries.
I guess its also a normal part of evolution to a future developed country.
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akred
07-14 09:21 AM
I suspect that the sponsors of this bill aren't aware that some children who entered legally also need a break.
It may be worth writing to Dick Durbin and some of the co-sponsors asking for favorable treatment for children who are here legally. Write a letter and send it via Fedex/Priority Mail as this is being considered next week.
The text of the bill is here: http://rs9.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN02075:
It may be worth writing to Dick Durbin and some of the co-sponsors asking for favorable treatment for children who are here legally. Write a letter and send it via Fedex/Priority Mail as this is being considered next week.
The text of the bill is here: http://rs9.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN02075:
syedajmal
02-11 10:18 AM
While we work on bills, is there anything that can be done without a bill but from some kind of an order from the President's office or the Head of USCIS. Getting a bill thru congress in this climate seems next to impossible ( If we could just counter the -ve bills/amendments that would be significant).
What I am trying to say is there something somewhere that can be done with just one office making the decision then we can all make a concentrated effort towards that one office as we do have a few Legal immigration friendly people at every office.
Any ideas????
What I am trying to say is there something somewhere that can be done with just one office making the decision then we can all make a concentrated effort towards that one office as we do have a few Legal immigration friendly people at every office.
Any ideas????
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04-24 08:32 PM
I think 90% of the people are doing nothing :(
People are thinking they give $100-$200 or $1000 to IV and their duty is done, they have no clue what we are up against...
People are thinking they give $100-$200 or $1000 to IV and their duty is done, they have no clue what we are up against...
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mhb
07-06 03:24 PM
Maybe the podcast is released the day after the news is telecast? Any idea?
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kak1978
06-05 10:15 AM
Form I-140 Petition Must be Approved Prior to a Favorable Determination of a �106(c) AC21 portability request.
On October 18, 2005, USCIS designated Matter of Al Wazzan, A95 253 422 (Jan. 12, 2005) as a USCIS Adopted Decision. This AAO decision established that a petition that is deniable (i.e., not approvable), whether or not the petition is denied 180 days or more after the filing of the adjustment of status application, cannot serve as the basis for approval of adjustment of status to permanent residence under the portability provision of INA � 204(j). An un-adjudicated Form I-140 petition is not made valid merely through the act of filing the petition with USCIS or through the passage of 180 days. Rather, the petition must have been filed on behalf of an alien who was entitled to the employment-based classification at the time that the petition was filed, and therefore must be approved prior to a favorable determination of a �106(c) AC21 portability request.
On October 18, 2005, USCIS designated Matter of Al Wazzan, A95 253 422 (Jan. 12, 2005) as a USCIS Adopted Decision. This AAO decision established that a petition that is deniable (i.e., not approvable), whether or not the petition is denied 180 days or more after the filing of the adjustment of status application, cannot serve as the basis for approval of adjustment of status to permanent residence under the portability provision of INA � 204(j). An un-adjudicated Form I-140 petition is not made valid merely through the act of filing the petition with USCIS or through the passage of 180 days. Rather, the petition must have been filed on behalf of an alien who was entitled to the employment-based classification at the time that the petition was filed, and therefore must be approved prior to a favorable determination of a �106(c) AC21 portability request.
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snathan
06-18 12:40 PM
Guys...thanks for the support. But we need to find out and bring people who are suffered due to this. Once we get enough stories, I can create a draft. Along with these stories we can send the letter and start the campaign. So please spread this to everyone you know.
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stang20874
03-22 12:01 PM
I live in Montgomery County, Maryland. Who else? Let us team up please.
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hebbar77
05-18 06:17 PM
In india we created so many types of quotas, some of us cant even live there expecting fairness.
Now here? ....! Jees!
I want a quota so that I get my GC tomorrow, though I have no valid reason.
Now here? ....! Jees!
I want a quota so that I get my GC tomorrow, though I have no valid reason.
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MDix
11-04 10:46 AM
Upcoming month's visa bulletin: December 2009 (coming soon)
Visa Bulletin (http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1360.html)
Visa Bulletin (http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1360.html)
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wahwah
06-05 12:03 PM
HQPRD 70/6.2.8-P
Michael Aytes
Acting Director of Domestic Operations
December 27, 2005
Interim guidance for processing I-140 employment-based immigrant petitions and I-485 and H-1B petitions affected by the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 2000 (AC21) (Public Law 106-313)
I. Q & A ON PROCESSING OF I-140 PETITIONS AND I-485 APPLICATIONS UNDER THE I-140 PORTABILITY PROVISIONS OF �106(C) OF AC21
Question 1. How should service centers or district offices process unapproved I-140 petitions that were concurrently filed with I-485 applications that have been pending 180 days in relation to the I-140 portability provisions under �106(c) of AC21?
Answer: If it is discovered that a beneficiary has ported off of an unapproved I-140 and I-485 that has been pending for 180 days or more, the following procedures should be applied:
A. Review the pending I-140 petition to determine if the preponderance of the evidence establishes that the case is approvable or would have been approvable had it been adjudicated within 180 days. If the petition is approvable but for an ability to pay issue or any other issue relating to a time after the filing of the petition, approve the petition on it�s merits. Then adjudicate the adjustment of status application to determine if the new position is the same or similar occupational classification for I-140 portability purposes.
B. If a request for additional evidence (RFE) is necessary to resolve a material issue, other than post-filing issues such as ability to pay, an RFE can be issued to try to resolve the issue. When a response is received, and if the petition is approvable, follow the procedures in part A above
Even as it stands RIGHT NOW without the "New AC21 Rules", you cannot use AC21 unless your I-140 is approved. The basic principle of AC21 is "If your I-140 is APPROVED AND your I-485 application has been pending for more than 180 days" you can switch jobs and not lose anything.
Michael Aytes
Acting Director of Domestic Operations
December 27, 2005
Interim guidance for processing I-140 employment-based immigrant petitions and I-485 and H-1B petitions affected by the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 2000 (AC21) (Public Law 106-313)
I. Q & A ON PROCESSING OF I-140 PETITIONS AND I-485 APPLICATIONS UNDER THE I-140 PORTABILITY PROVISIONS OF �106(C) OF AC21
Question 1. How should service centers or district offices process unapproved I-140 petitions that were concurrently filed with I-485 applications that have been pending 180 days in relation to the I-140 portability provisions under �106(c) of AC21?
Answer: If it is discovered that a beneficiary has ported off of an unapproved I-140 and I-485 that has been pending for 180 days or more, the following procedures should be applied:
A. Review the pending I-140 petition to determine if the preponderance of the evidence establishes that the case is approvable or would have been approvable had it been adjudicated within 180 days. If the petition is approvable but for an ability to pay issue or any other issue relating to a time after the filing of the petition, approve the petition on it�s merits. Then adjudicate the adjustment of status application to determine if the new position is the same or similar occupational classification for I-140 portability purposes.
B. If a request for additional evidence (RFE) is necessary to resolve a material issue, other than post-filing issues such as ability to pay, an RFE can be issued to try to resolve the issue. When a response is received, and if the petition is approvable, follow the procedures in part A above
Even as it stands RIGHT NOW without the "New AC21 Rules", you cannot use AC21 unless your I-140 is approved. The basic principle of AC21 is "If your I-140 is APPROVED AND your I-485 application has been pending for more than 180 days" you can switch jobs and not lose anything.
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chanduv23
07-08 04:46 PM
I dont think we could expect such thing from our community as we are born selfish and scared of things. Everone is just hoping that some miracle will happen and everyone will get their GCs. Or else people are happy with EAD/h1b renewals.We really lack the kind of leadership and atitude we had before independece both at home in india and here.I think people have made immigration problems as part of the many problems they have in their lives.
Well, even before Indian independence, it was just a handful of population that were actively involved in the process, majority took life as it came and were afraid. In fact, there are a lot of coward stories where cowards helped the British against freedom fighters. The reason British could rule India so easily because desis are submissive and it took a long time for leaders like Mahatma Gandhi to lay a foundation and gather critical mass enought o bring about a change and the worst thing is - the only change that happened was that British govt moved out. 60 years after independence, we are still divided mentality, lack of civic sense, we claim greaatness in getting IT and BPO projects, we could not win a gold medal in Olympics nor could we make any big scientific achievement - the worst thing is we come here to US and stay divided and expect that someone will do good to us
Well, even before Indian independence, it was just a handful of population that were actively involved in the process, majority took life as it came and were afraid. In fact, there are a lot of coward stories where cowards helped the British against freedom fighters. The reason British could rule India so easily because desis are submissive and it took a long time for leaders like Mahatma Gandhi to lay a foundation and gather critical mass enought o bring about a change and the worst thing is - the only change that happened was that British govt moved out. 60 years after independence, we are still divided mentality, lack of civic sense, we claim greaatness in getting IT and BPO projects, we could not win a gold medal in Olympics nor could we make any big scientific achievement - the worst thing is we come here to US and stay divided and expect that someone will do good to us
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cagedcactus
09-15 07:07 AM
You see, not all the folks that receive gc are able to utilize the benefits.
I have ton of friends who received their GC two years ago, and now they keep telling everyone that it is no different than being on H1.
All I tell them is I will trade my H1 with their GC, and all they do is Shut up.
Yah, sure, if USA allowed us and our better halves to work unlimited without any doubts of going back abruptly one day, then I would rather stay on H1.
But as we all know, that is not the case.
I have finances and places set up to start business. The only thing holding me back is this damn backlog. My wife has a masters in communications and held a better job than me in India. What is she doing now? Watching my newborn kid play, and offer volunteer services to local hospital.
I am damn sure GC could solve that.
If some people are not able to take benefits of GC, doesnt mean that they should assume the same thing with others.
Things are different with everyone.
I have ton of friends who received their GC two years ago, and now they keep telling everyone that it is no different than being on H1.
All I tell them is I will trade my H1 with their GC, and all they do is Shut up.
Yah, sure, if USA allowed us and our better halves to work unlimited without any doubts of going back abruptly one day, then I would rather stay on H1.
But as we all know, that is not the case.
I have finances and places set up to start business. The only thing holding me back is this damn backlog. My wife has a masters in communications and held a better job than me in India. What is she doing now? Watching my newborn kid play, and offer volunteer services to local hospital.
I am damn sure GC could solve that.
If some people are not able to take benefits of GC, doesnt mean that they should assume the same thing with others.
Things are different with everyone.
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akred
07-14 11:05 PM
What was 245(i) amnesty?...just curious
Section 245(i) is a part of the INA. In 2001, this section was updated to allow people present illegally to submit a labor certification. This resulted in the DOL getting 6 years worth of applications in April 2001. These applications led to the establishment of the Backlog Elimination Centers and the PERM process. The applications filed 6 years ago are still being processed by the DOL.
Btw if you do not support DREAM ACT than you shouldn't be on this forum...
At this point I am neutral on the DREAM act. Before I can support the DREAM act you need to prove how it helps children of legal immigrants. I suspect there is more to your story than you are letting on. If you are 21 now, you would have been 19 in 2005 and well able to understand the consequences of becoming an illegal immigrant. As someone said the F1 was an option if you wanted to maintain legal status.
Section 245(i) is a part of the INA. In 2001, this section was updated to allow people present illegally to submit a labor certification. This resulted in the DOL getting 6 years worth of applications in April 2001. These applications led to the establishment of the Backlog Elimination Centers and the PERM process. The applications filed 6 years ago are still being processed by the DOL.
Btw if you do not support DREAM ACT than you shouldn't be on this forum...
At this point I am neutral on the DREAM act. Before I can support the DREAM act you need to prove how it helps children of legal immigrants. I suspect there is more to your story than you are letting on. If you are 21 now, you would have been 19 in 2005 and well able to understand the consequences of becoming an illegal immigrant. As someone said the F1 was an option if you wanted to maintain legal status.
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gc_check
10-27 09:04 AM
Well, what is the point in saying it now, he should have said it in the 90s and early 2000 when industry was booming and people found a career path in coming to the US.
Right now, so much work is outsourced and it is continuing. Very difficult to get a IT job in US on h1b and IT consulting on h1b also facing so many hurdles. For any new immigrant on a software job who wants to get a h1b visa and green card - it is not an easy task.
From from the article. "On wooing back Indian talent, Murthy said there was no need to increase their salaries by 50 times to ensure this. But their lives could be made easier by providing schools, making sure that power condition and commuting is reasonably all right " Looks like he wants to still have the "less expensive" advantage over non-Indian companies / competition and he just wants more and easy H1B's and does not like the path to permanent residency and eventually citizenship and integrating with the American society - which is what American immigration is for. Just need the $$$. Though there are many good to learn from this company and this man, I do disagree with his views when it comes to immigration to USA.
Right now, so much work is outsourced and it is continuing. Very difficult to get a IT job in US on h1b and IT consulting on h1b also facing so many hurdles. For any new immigrant on a software job who wants to get a h1b visa and green card - it is not an easy task.
From from the article. "On wooing back Indian talent, Murthy said there was no need to increase their salaries by 50 times to ensure this. But their lives could be made easier by providing schools, making sure that power condition and commuting is reasonably all right " Looks like he wants to still have the "less expensive" advantage over non-Indian companies / competition and he just wants more and easy H1B's and does not like the path to permanent residency and eventually citizenship and integrating with the American society - which is what American immigration is for. Just need the $$$. Though there are many good to learn from this company and this man, I do disagree with his views when it comes to immigration to USA.
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jgh_res
10-10 12:41 PM
I wish they invested in R and D and innovation and products instead of services. Service industry is mainly governed by dealing with cost efficient labor. These companies reach out to IITs IIMs get the best and brightest and dump them into the service sector and start earning on them.
If they changed their business modal and started investing in products and Rand D, it may not give them quick money, but the results will be beneficial on the long run.
I am not sure how much R & D is going on in india, but Adobe filed lots of patents from Adobe, india.
If they changed their business modal and started investing in products and Rand D, it may not give them quick money, but the results will be beneficial on the long run.
I am not sure how much R & D is going on in india, but Adobe filed lots of patents from Adobe, india.
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LostInGCProcess
02-11 03:43 PM
With all these analysis, is there any formula to actually predict when one could get the GC? I was just curious to know when I could potentially get my GC although I stopped worrying about it a very long time ago.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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gcsngh
08-31 08:02 PM
Driving from CT with my wife on Monday evening, stay overnight in NJ and along with a friend to DC on Tuesday morning!:)
We are a selfmotivated lot with no blinders!:cool:
We are a selfmotivated lot with no blinders!:cool:
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smuggymba
05-12 03:28 PM
DREAM Act Loses Republican Cosponsor Richard Lugar
WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats reintroduced the DREAM Act on Wednesday without the co-sponsorship of Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), who had previously been one of the bill's strongest backers.
The legislation would allow some undocumented young people to become U.S. citizens and has been introduced repeatedly over the years with Lugar and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) as the cosponsors. The most recent vote on the DREAM Act was in December, when it fell five votes short of bypassing a filibuster. Lugar was one of just three Republicans to vote for the measure.
In a statement, Lugar spokesman Mark Helmke blamed Democrats for turning immigration into a partisan issue.
"President Obama's appearance in Texas framed immigration as a divisive election issue instead of attempting a legitimate debate on comprehensive reform," wrote Helmke. "Ridiculing Republicans was clearly a partisan push that effectively stops a productive discussion about comprehensive immigration reform and the DREAM Act before the 2012 election."
In his Tuesday speech at the Mexico-U.S. border, Obama pointed the finger at Republicans for moving the goal posts on immigration reform. The president argued that his administration has gone out of its way to accommodate their requests.
"Maybe they'll say we need a moat. Or alligators in the moat," Obama joked, referring to the GOP. "They'll never be satisfied. And I understand that. That's politics."
Helmke said Lugar's staff told Democrats that the Indiana senator supported the initiative, but he wanted them to work on getting more Republican support. Lugar's spokesman claims that not only did Democrats not do that, but they set up a press conference to announce the reintroduction of the DREAM Act before the Lugar had made his final decision not to cosponsor. Democrats, however, said that it was clear for months that Indiana Republican wasn't going to cosponsor the bill at this time.
WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats reintroduced the DREAM Act on Wednesday without the co-sponsorship of Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), who had previously been one of the bill's strongest backers.
The legislation would allow some undocumented young people to become U.S. citizens and has been introduced repeatedly over the years with Lugar and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) as the cosponsors. The most recent vote on the DREAM Act was in December, when it fell five votes short of bypassing a filibuster. Lugar was one of just three Republicans to vote for the measure.
In a statement, Lugar spokesman Mark Helmke blamed Democrats for turning immigration into a partisan issue.
"President Obama's appearance in Texas framed immigration as a divisive election issue instead of attempting a legitimate debate on comprehensive reform," wrote Helmke. "Ridiculing Republicans was clearly a partisan push that effectively stops a productive discussion about comprehensive immigration reform and the DREAM Act before the 2012 election."
In his Tuesday speech at the Mexico-U.S. border, Obama pointed the finger at Republicans for moving the goal posts on immigration reform. The president argued that his administration has gone out of its way to accommodate their requests.
"Maybe they'll say we need a moat. Or alligators in the moat," Obama joked, referring to the GOP. "They'll never be satisfied. And I understand that. That's politics."
Helmke said Lugar's staff told Democrats that the Indiana senator supported the initiative, but he wanted them to work on getting more Republican support. Lugar's spokesman claims that not only did Democrats not do that, but they set up a press conference to announce the reintroduction of the DREAM Act before the Lugar had made his final decision not to cosponsor. Democrats, however, said that it was clear for months that Indiana Republican wasn't going to cosponsor the bill at this time.
k_ek
12-06 02:23 AM
Dear friends, why do you seek to start bashing your country at the first opportunity you get. THere are people in the Indian Govt who are negotiating on your behalf to make sur you get your money back.
THen on the question of paying bribes to get money out of PPF - something is better than nothing. Why complain. If it is so bad, go back and fight to fix the system, otherwise stop maoning. India is the only country that will welcome you if you are kicked out of here. I remember i used to pay 50 INR per ticket for a railway seat, now i go online and book a ticket. Things change they take time and patience.
Only those people who have NEVER bribed anyone to get stuff done illegally, or out of turn should speak. And i know there is no one, since you are in US and came on a passport and we all know how passports are obtained.
You left india, want to stay away, so leave it alone. When you are kicked out of everywhere, the doors will still be open, just keep some cash for the gatekeeper.
Lets discuss whether this swap will be possible or not, or what the loopholes are.
thanks
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THen on the question of paying bribes to get money out of PPF - something is better than nothing. Why complain. If it is so bad, go back and fight to fix the system, otherwise stop maoning. India is the only country that will welcome you if you are kicked out of here. I remember i used to pay 50 INR per ticket for a railway seat, now i go online and book a ticket. Things change they take time and patience.
Only those people who have NEVER bribed anyone to get stuff done illegally, or out of turn should speak. And i know there is no one, since you are in US and came on a passport and we all know how passports are obtained.
You left india, want to stay away, so leave it alone. When you are kicked out of everywhere, the doors will still be open, just keep some cash for the gatekeeper.
Lets discuss whether this swap will be possible or not, or what the loopholes are.
thanks
thanx suttu
really good post.
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mdmd10
07-25 11:36 AM
I also have a PD in the same year as yours (May 2004), but my I-140 is still pending. God alone knows when it will be cleared. But I try not to think about it.
Instead, imagine as if you already have your GC. If you suddenly get it one day, think about what your next steps are going to be. If you want to join a new company, think and plan about ways you will be able to market yourself. Plan for the future. You have plenty of time now to do research and analysis, because as soon as th GC comes, you will need to put your plan into action. Everything happens for the best. Assuming your whole life is ahead of you, what is a 4-5 year wait. This too shall pass.
I have observed that on an average an EB2 ought to get their GC in 5-6 years from when they applied for labor, whereas for EB3 it is around 6-7 years. Now folks may get it sooner and it depends on individual case, but my observation tells me the above. So plan accordingly.
Don't let anyone take your happiness from you. Only you determine how you feel and you can choose to be all depressed about it or not not worry about it and focus on something else. It is just a state of mind.
Perhaps a couple of years after you get your GC, you will look back and think how resilient you have become because of this long wait. If nothing you have gained a virtue - patience.
Instead, imagine as if you already have your GC. If you suddenly get it one day, think about what your next steps are going to be. If you want to join a new company, think and plan about ways you will be able to market yourself. Plan for the future. You have plenty of time now to do research and analysis, because as soon as th GC comes, you will need to put your plan into action. Everything happens for the best. Assuming your whole life is ahead of you, what is a 4-5 year wait. This too shall pass.
I have observed that on an average an EB2 ought to get their GC in 5-6 years from when they applied for labor, whereas for EB3 it is around 6-7 years. Now folks may get it sooner and it depends on individual case, but my observation tells me the above. So plan accordingly.
Don't let anyone take your happiness from you. Only you determine how you feel and you can choose to be all depressed about it or not not worry about it and focus on something else. It is just a state of mind.
Perhaps a couple of years after you get your GC, you will look back and think how resilient you have become because of this long wait. If nothing you have gained a virtue - patience.
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